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The Ultimate 12? Barefaced vs Berg vs Boogie?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Jason Hollar, Sep 10, 2019.

  1. CosmicRay

    CosmicRay Supporting Member

    I use Fearless cabs. My F212 & F215 are built out of okoume wood. Extremely light.
  2. saltydude


    Aug 15, 2011
    boston CANADA
    Went for the 6X10 lol.
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  3. alaskaleftybass

    alaskaleftybass Will Hanbury, Jr. Supporting Member

    Mar 21, 2012
    Sitka, Alaska
    @Jason Hollar if you didn't have money for the high end stuff right now I would heartily recommend the Eden EX112's. I have a pair of EX110's and it's amazing how much low end a pair of those little guys get. And I believe the EX112's can handle more power than the 110's. the cabs are easy to transport and light. They have a nice bassy tone and the high end is really crisp.

    Here's a link to the specs. Look around TB. There are a lot of Eden fans. I'm one of them......

    EX112 | EDEN Amplification
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  4. Macch5


    Nov 8, 2014
    Hudson Valley
    I keep going around in circles myself deciding on lightweight 112s to pair with my th500. Berg hdn’s are the frontrunner but then it’s “ohh, what about this?” When I see something else.
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  5. Larry Fuller

    Larry Fuller

    Jul 6, 2015
  6. jthisdell

    jthisdell Supporting Member

    Jun 12, 2014
    Roanoke, VA
    +1 for booty cabs
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  7. Larry Fuller

    Larry Fuller

    Jul 6, 2015
    I've been very happy with a pair of Aguilar DB 112s
    with ampeg svt7.
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  8. jazzyvee


    Aug 11, 2012
    United Kingdom
    Like you I have a Big Twin 2 and it is a superb cab especially on reggae, such clean low end. Not long after that I decided to get a Big Baby 2 for those smaller gigs and I'd recommend either of them.
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  9. Altitude

    Altitude An ounce of perception, a pound of obscure. Supporting Member

    Mar 9, 2005
    Denver, nee Austin
    I’d suggest the Audiokinesis Hathor or Changeling 1203 cabinets. Same woofers as the Thunderchild, but they have a 3” mid driver in a separate internal enclosure instead of a horn. That driver combination is exquisite for a bass guitar. That’s the Hathor; the Changeling adds a second rear-firing 3” driver that creates a little magic by bouncing some sound off the back wall.

    Around 30 pounds each.
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  10. Rice

    Rice #bluecollarbassist Gold Supporting Member

    Jul 17, 2018
    San Diego, CA
    Euphonic Audio NL-112.
    (Drops mic and walks away...)
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  11. taliesin


    Nov 12, 2007
    Toronto, ON
    I have two Berg AE112 cabinets (the previous generation with neo drivers) with a GB Streamliner 600.

    For smaller gigs I just use one of them and stack them for bigger rooms - I find them clear and punchy and haven't had a problem yet suiting volume level to the room size.

    I play 4 string, 5 string and an electric upright and they have no issue handling any of them.

    And at about 30 pounds each I can carry one in each hand into the gig.

    I haven't tried the others but I'm very happy with these.
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  12. socialleper

    socialleper Bringer of doom and top shelf beer Supporting Member

    May 31, 2009
    Canyon Country, CA
    I'm with the Barefaced crowd. I haven't tried one of their full super 12s, but I really like my Super Twin 212. Powerfull, easy to move, great tone.
    Yes it is a proprietary design, but that is what I love about it. The builder re-thought everything. It is music tech built by nerds. I dig that.
  13. Slim Pickins

    Slim Pickins Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2015
    New Hampshire
    I double too and I've owned an older Berg 12 and a Barefaced Super Midget but neither sounded as good with the upright as my current speaker the Audiokinesis Thunderchild 112 acoustic friendly version. Great with the slab too. Super versatile plus I doubt you'll ever need two of them.
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  14. This looooong nerdy video about the new Barefaced GUITAR cabs is well worth watching. I was quite surprised!
  15. chris_b


    Jun 2, 2007
    Some fantastic gear has been mentioned so far.

    My gear journey for the last 25 years has been: Mesa Boogie, Aguilar, Epifani, Bergantino and finally Barefaced.

    They all sounded good but IMO I'm at a sonic peak right now with my 2 112 Barefaced cabs.
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  16. Jason Hollar

    Jason Hollar It Don’t Mean A Thing... Supporting Member

    Apr 17, 2005
    Pittsburgh area
    ^^^ Thanks - I appreciate all the responses!!!
  17. Tim1


    Sep 9, 2005
    New Zealand
    I rate the Barefaced 10s as better than many 12s I have played, but I do realise that is not the question.
    But it is food for thought......
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  18. The Genzler BA12-3 is 34 pounds. Heavier than some of the others... lighter than others. The array is very cool. It allows the woofers to be woofers with a crossover at 800 and the array does a great job with vocal mids and smooth trebles.

    A few years back I was looking at the Greenboys, Barefaced, Audiokinesis Hathor, and Genzler. All are great choices. I decided on the Genzler and don’t regret it for a second. My next choice would be the Audiokinesis Hathor.
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  19. Jim Carr

    Jim Carr Dr. Jim Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 21, 2006
    Denton, TX or Kailua, HI
    fEARful Kool-Aid dispensing liberal academic card-carrying union member Musicians Local 72-147
    Have you considered building a fEARful? There are kits that have everything, including the hardware, built cross-overs, pre-cut plywood, glue, etc. Buying used also works. You will frequently find used fEARful's on TB classified.

    I double a lot, and am very happy with the sound of fEARful + amp + double bass.
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2019 at 12:30 PM
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