Alright so Over the past 5 or 10 years I've noticed the new to used value of instruments go up, particularily since the recession hit (2008). Anyway what I'm refering to is that if said piece of gear goes for $500 it would have sold for about 50% value used. I understand that it depends on the product, but I'm talking about your standard run of the mill "generic gear". Anyway In the last few years I've seen the following trends when dealing with people on Kijiji, Craigslist, Ebay, or the plethora of forums available to musicians 1. Over stating value to get true value, but not budging on the overstated value. I have used this tactic before but in a more reasonable manner. What the above means is if I want 50% of retail value I ask for 60-75% and am willing to take OBO. This way I avoid lowballers. What I've noticed is people offering 70% value....Firm. Your Mexican made Bass may have sold for $400 in the store but now that you took it out of the store it is worth $200 (50%), but they ask for $300 firm. Same with medium-high end gear. 2. When calculating 50% adding taxes then cutting the price in half. This is BS. So someone buys a product for $400 and in Canada we have a 14% tax which adds roughly $60 to the product. So they mark it down to 50% of $460 = $230. Why should I be paying taxes for something used, to someone who is not a representative of said government? The product is used, I'm probably already paying for shipping and customs if I bought the product out of country. This seems like a new dirty tactic. 3. Half of Suggested Retail Price(SRP). This is bogus. I log onto musicians friend, or a manuafacturers website and they sometimes have SRP. In store the equipment is selling for atleast 10-20% under SRP. Said seller is selling at 50, 60, 75% of SRP. What the hell is he thinking? SRP is never the actual retail price it is a guideline. If I can buy a product new for 1000 or used for 700 (because SRP is marked at 1400 x 0.5) If the seller is not going to budge on the 700 or try to sell it for 800, I might just buy it new for 1000 and get the 6 month-2 or 3 year warranty! 4. Value on the dollar. In Canada this is a huge problem. I have a personal experience dealing with this. Back about 5 years ago the Canadian Dollar was worth 68 cents versus the greenback (US Dollar). Our retail price on the Peavey Tour 700 was 750ish dollars. Recently when I tried to buy one used with the Canadian Dollar about equal to the greenback the Tour 700 was selling retail in stores for 575. I couldn't find a used one for under $450 and saw some as high as $600, all this was before shipping. I understand that these people aren't price gouging, and I totally understand that they bought it for 750 and want 50-60% value for it, but the value of the product has gone down considerably since you bought it. When I can buy it new for the same or less then what the people are trying to sell it used that product is not going to move as a used product till you find a sucker who hasn't done his/her research. 5. "Out of production" or "Rare" gouging. I've seen this even before the reccession. People stating it is "Out of Production" or "Rare" and charging more for the used product then when it was new. Sure I can't find a new one, but the parts inside the product are the same or less valuable then the new stuff coming out. It is a dastardly way to gouge people who really want that sound and take advantage of their GAS. My advice on this is wait and be patient, you can usually find it somewhere else. Either it's a marketing ploy (not really that rare) or someone else may have a similar Rare product at some other time down the line. I understand everyone is trying to get the most for their used gear, but as a musician would you really want to pay "extra" for your new piece of used gear. I don't mind paying a little extra on some used gear if I really want it, but these people seem to be popping up more and more and it infuriates me that in a economy such as this that musicians would turn into the fat cats of wallstreet. Just wondering what other peoples thoughts on this were or other trends you've noticed on the used market.