I was telling him about me being a former (still am a bit) Metal Guy. I have just always played various styles of music. 2004 was when my band had signed a deal but then got shelved permanently because our rep was on the outs with the label. So we got screwed. Here is my Promo Warwick and I did for NAMM 2004. The same year I met Roger and started moving towards Sadowsky. Here is Jason and I at Roger's booth NAMM 2004. We hung out and talked for a while about Roger's stuff, music and other stuff.