This is what happens when a prog metal bass player writes a pop song just to prove a point

Discussion in 'Bass Humor & Gig Stories [BG]' started by archisland, Feb 9, 2018.

  1. archisland

    archisland

    Mar 5, 2016
    Stockholm
    This is what happens when I write a pop song, just to prove a point regarding my cranky-old-man-opinion of the Eurovision Song Contest. Hope ya'll enjoy it (Skip to 01:02 to hear the song instead of me ranting)

     
  2. JRA

    JRA my words = opinion Gold Supporting Member

    :thumbsup:
     
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  3. Stumbo

    Stumbo Guest

    Feb 11, 2008
    Cool.

    I like the dynamics of the part where the guitar distortion is turned off.

    I suggest using that sound though the vocal parts during the rest of the song.

    More dynamics and allow the vocals to come through better.
     
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  4. archisland

    archisland

    Mar 5, 2016
    Stockholm
    Good point! I'll keep it in mind for future efforts! :)
     
  5. BassCliff

    BassCliff

    May 17, 2012
    So. Cal.
    Hi Mr. @archisland,

    That is actually really impressive. Sure, it's pop but I like the hooks and the breakdown and the instrumental interlude section. It sounds just as good, if not better, that what I'm hearing on the radio these days. My personal preference would be to have the vocals up just a little more in the mix so it's not so hard to hear the words (that's pop music for you), but overall that is very nice work. Thanks for sharing. :)

    Thank you for your indulgence,

    BassCliff
     
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  6. archisland

    archisland

    Mar 5, 2016
    Stockholm
    Wow! Thank you for those kind words bro!! That means a lot! :)
     
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  7. BassCliff

    BassCliff

    May 17, 2012
    So. Cal.
    Hi,

    I edited my comment while you were responding. Still, I really like that track. Bringing the vocals up just a bit would make this old man enjoy it even more! ;)


    Thank you for your indulgence,

    BassCliff
     
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  8. McG

    McG Goat Hill Gamblers

    Oct 6, 2010
    Costa Mesa, CA
    That was really good! :cool:
     
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  9. This is better and more interesting to listen to than most modern pop. Great work.
     
  10. TrevorR

    TrevorR

    Oct 3, 2015
    Near London, UK
    I like it! Dead cert for Sweden's entry next year. I can't wait to hear it in the final when you have the children's choir walk on stage to do BVs for those big final choruses!

    Strangely reminds me of the UK's last winning song - it's cheesy as anything but it's still a cracking pop song!


    And frankly, this will never be bettered!!!

    Rutger Gunnarson, what a bass player!
     
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  11. TrevorR

    TrevorR

    Oct 3, 2015
    Near London, UK
    And yes, I agree with the others... a touch less saturation on the main rhythm guitar part, perhaps a touch more compression to smooth it out and bring up the vocals a little bit. But that's really just nit picking.

    AND the children's choir on the big ending choruses... :thumbsup::cool::cool::cool::bassist:

    PS Have you ever checked out the UK prog metal band Threshold? They've got a load of albums on InsideOut and Nuclear Blast. They are properly prog metal but also not scared of throwing in a singable big chorus and catchy hooks into their tunes where it suits.

     
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  12. archisland

    archisland

    Mar 5, 2016
    Stockholm
    Thanks for the kind words, guys!! :)

    Yup, I’ve checked out Threshold a bit! I like them - and I like my prog catchy, whenever possible, so with that being said I should spin them on Spotify a bit more I guess :)

    Also: Investigating how to include a Children’s Choir for my next project. Feels a bit out of budget for the time being, but I’ll figure something out.
     
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  13. Bassbeater

    Bassbeater Guest

    Sep 9, 2001
    0:27. :D
    The lyrics are funny. Well done.
    -When I think "pop" in the modern sense I think about lots of automation and post production. This track is more like light metal/hard rock, in that it could be performed live very close to the recording. I don't know anything about eurovision song contest, but if you really want to get a track on it, I think maybe consider that the songs that won are like one big album, then try to write the next song for that imaginary album.
    All good advice in above comments.
    Keep us updated if you revise the track. I always enjoy hearing the "time-lapse" of song development.
     
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  14. archisland

    archisland

    Mar 5, 2016
    Stockholm
    Yeah, it turned out fairly more "rockier" than most contributions to the ESC. My aim is not to be on there - just wanted to challenge myself with writing a more "pop" oriented track. I'll definitely challenge myself like this in the future - but maybe go the "extra mile" then and go full on pop even in terms of production (I.E. less guitars, more synths and easier drum beats) :)
     
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  15. Bassbeater

    Bassbeater Guest

    Sep 9, 2001
    Well, you can always write in different genres for different musicians. Just like musicians that play covers, you can write the songs that others cover too. I think your song is good, even if you don't prefer to write pop, it turned out well IMO.
    I always upload my music stems, and I get some pretty cool remixes and reinterpretations that way. I mostly write rock and pop, but most remixes that others make from them are dance music. It's fun to let go of a song creatively and see what people do with it.


     
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  16. twinjet

    twinjet Powered by GE90s; fueled with coffee. Staff Member Supporting Member

    Sep 23, 2008
    49
    That vocalist looks far too metal to have such a sweet voice.

    Good work!
     
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  17. archisland

    archisland

    Mar 5, 2016
    Stockholm
    Haha! I'll make sure to tell him! Thanks!! :D
     
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  18. TrevorR

    TrevorR

    Oct 3, 2015
    Near London, UK
    You could always go full Lordi! LOL LOL LOL! I watched the year they represented Finland just to see what happened!
     
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  19. delta7fred

    delta7fred

    Jul 3, 2007
    England
    I avoid Eurovision like the plague but would take a lot more notice if the entries were as good as yours! :thumbsup:
     
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  20. Thought it wasn’t pretty cool and I’ve heard a lot of your other stuff on YouTube over the last couple years. You great tones.

    Having gone from a nu metal band to a prog metal band back to the nu metal band myself I have to say I honestly enjoy writing the simple stuff. It sounds huge in PA systems at shows, attracts more people to shows, and to be honest I got to a point where I felt like I was playing more complicated music for the sake of playing more complicated music. On our most recent album I challenged myself in several different ways. One was to make my bass lines simple but still fun to perform. Another was to be more of a multi instrumentalist and producer (I did all the keyboard/virtual instruments work and was much more into helping with vocal ideas.

    Here are some of songs off our newest record.

    This one is kind of like a Staind or Seether Like ballad you can here some of the strings and piano work i did. As simple as it is I’m proud of the bassline on this one also.

    This one you can hear a little bit of My more progressive influences but it’s also a very simple rock chorus and bridge.


    This one is very Taproot/nu metal. more balls to the wall
     
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