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Thoughts on Darkglass

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by RexxRokket, Aug 25, 2018.

  1. RexxRokket


    Apr 23, 2012
    I was checking out some stuff on Youtube the other night and suddenly I got a video suggestion, I saw it and found it someway interesting.
    What do you guys think about it? Hype?, Quality?, both?

    heres the link (it's a long video):

    -->I am not trying to bash DG in any way (just in case)<--
  2. RickyT


    May 29, 2015
    Dee Why
    I love Darkglass stuff. It's the distorted tone I've heard in my head for years but could never quite achieve.

    I use a B7K on my board for my heavy distortion, being able to boost or cut certain frequencies really let's you shape it exactly how you want. The Super Symmetry compressor is always turned on and it adds so much fullness, fatness, warmth to my tone but still packs plenty of punch.

    I bought the M900 amp as soon as it was available and couldn't be happier with it. The clean tone is surprisingly...clean. Sounds amazing really. Add to that both the B3K and Vintage OD channels and it's a pretty great amp. I have had 2 issues with the amp -
    1. The footswitch didn't like my old cables and it was acting a bit funny (not switching off) but I updated the cables and no issues since.
    2. A few months ago the amp randomly cut out while at rehearsal. It's only happened once and it was in a room we don't regularly rehearse in so I'm putting down to the power in the room (guitar player was also having amp issues that day).
    The amp is LOUD. The most I've ever needed to push it is 12 o'clock on the Master but if I'm using the OD channels then it's normally around 10 o'clock.

    Great gear. Well built. Doug and the team are amazing at answering questions and getting stuff made right for you. You can't really go wrong with Darkglass gear.
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  3. scottfeldstein

    scottfeldstein Roots and fifths and a little extra. Supporting Member

    Jun 20, 2011
    West Bend, Wisconsin
    I can't believe I wasted an hour of my life watching that video. If you haven't watched it, let me boil it down for you.

    He thinks having a blend knob on a distortion pedal is completely and totally inadequate for maintaining the fundamental bump in the low end. Instead, the by far better way is to split the signal into two or three different frequencies and distorting each one differently (or not at all).

    Maybe that's true. Maybe it isn't. He demonstrates how he's doing that in a Logic plugin. Neat. He claims that a yet-to-be-tried Tech 21 pedal does this exact thing and he's "99% sure" that it's going to be awesome.

    Well Tech 21 isn't the first pedal maker to do this kind of design. I know for sure that there's at least one other that does it (some one in these forums will remember who).

    Another thought. He can't make his bass sound good through a Darkglass pedal even when he has Logic and four or five different plugins to play with? I'm not buying it.
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  4. Beheroth


    Aug 26, 2016
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  5. cnltb


    May 28, 2005
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  6. Fuzzbass

    Fuzzbass P5 with overdrive Gold Supporting Member

    Darkglass makes quality pedals. OBVIOUSLY, no piece of gear will please everyone. The total trash job is... childish. And I'm being polite.
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  7. Real Soon

    Real Soon

    Aug 15, 2013
    Atlanta, GA
    Multiband overdrive, like multiband compression, can be very useful.

    Clean blend can also be very useful. Moreover, it takes one knob instead of ~6 for independent gain/vol settings for 3 separate bands, not including any master controls or EQ.

    He wants to sound like his bass is processed in a studio? He should process his bass in a studio, or make his own pedal. Personally, I have a DG Vintage Ultra and have no trouble making it sound quite good, so good that it's what I use for recording.

    If there were a feature that an OD/preamp pedal could use, be it in conjunction with or in lieu of blend, it'd be a high-pass filter knob. My Iron Ether Polytope chorus pedal can filter the effect off of the lowest notes, and that by itself sets it in another league from other choruses.

    Anyway, I hope my guy here can see a specialist about the chip on his shoulder.
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  8. jpTron


    Apr 19, 2010
    Legend has it that video is the reason Doug created the soon to be released X the very next day...
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  9. LOL not gonna watch that video, I'm just not cool enough.

    But I did sleep at a Holiday Inn last night, so I can tell you that I've been using a Darkglass B3k since not long after they were invented and if I had to get rid of all my pedals except one, this one would the one I'd keep.

    All the rest is opinion.
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  10. recode


    Sep 10, 2013
    This guy is the video is being too radical. But I have to say that I don't like Darkglass stuff if you are planning to go D.I. I had a chance to play B7K for a while and I really don't like it on it's own. B3K + Sansamp or some kind of can sim and eq sound nice, but again IMO B7K going direct to sound card sound awful. And as someone already mentioned here I don't like the idea of a full range clean blend, it's useless. If play with overdrive, you want to hear the overdrive, but also want to keep low end tight and full In that response Amptweaker bass pedals are awesome because they are blending back only bass frequencies of clean signal. And yeah speaking about dUg's signature pedal - it is the best biamp overdrive/distortion bass sound period, but I just don't like this pedal format being a "pedalboard", because I have a pedalboard and I like to have separate pedals that I like.
  11. I love my Darkglass pedals. Build quality is great. I will say I actually prefer their Alpha/omega and the duality over the b7k and Vintage though. Those two pedals have never left my board and they’ve cured my GAS for dirt pedals at least as I’m not looking for anything that could replace them.

    As far as complaints I do wish Darkglass would branch out a bit more though. The build quality is so good I wouldn’t mind paying good money for other effects like analog octave, chorus, and maybe an envelope filter. I’ve suggested many times that if not separate effects that I wish Darkglass would build an analog bass micro synth on steroids type of pedal using the A/O ultra chassis with the sliders and including a basic analog chorus as kind of like a boutique version of the octave filter section of the tech 21 bass fly rig. As much as some people pout about the cost of DG pedals the closest thing I can think of to that is the TWA great divide and they are $500 or more and very hard to come by. I guess my only other complaint would be the location of some things on the pedals. For example the ultra series has top jacks so you tend to want to put it right after another pedal with top jacks right? but the ground lift switch prevents it from touching the pedal before it and you basically have to leave a big enough gap on the side if you want to be able to get to the ground lift switch that i might as well have just used low profile cables and side jacks. So it kind of defeats the purpose of having top jacks imo. Also The power jack on my duality is in a spot where I’m a bit limited on how I position the pedal on my pedaltrain board without having cables sticking up.

    As far as comparing Darkglass and tech 21. I played tech 21 gear for a long time. Particularly the rackmount sans amp rbi. They do build good stuff and the sans amp bass driver is a classic pedal imo. Darkglass is more expensive but I do see an increase in build quality so I don’t feel like I’m throwing money away just on a name
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2018
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  12. grimjim


    Jan 26, 2014
    Chicago, Illinois
    Endorsing artist;DNA Amplification, GHS strings
    I run an alpha/omega in my rig, always on, always sounds great. Looking into a compressor next, that's a toss up between the darkglass and the keeley though, not decided.
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  13. Check out the Seymour Duncan studio bass compressor. I have the A/O on like 60% of the show and the studio bass works well and it’s much cheaper than the DG or the Cali.
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  14. AdamR

    AdamR Supporting Member

    Sep 24, 2007
    Bethel CT
    Love my AOU. Didn't care for the B7KU. I dont trust anyone that makes youtube videos in their car while they chain smoke.
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  15. I run a B7K always on for subtle overdrive. I like it.
  16. Bartrinsic

    Bartrinsic Supporting Member

    Jan 6, 2018
    San Diego
    The blend nob and frequency switch are a bonus on this one.
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  17. I sold my b7ku after I got my Alpha omega. Also agree about the people making videos in cars lol
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  18. Perfect.

    I use a Tech21 Oxford fed into an Alpha Omega. They work awesome together. The Tech21 provides a clean, warm tubish tone, and the Darkglass handles all the dirt.
    The Oxford is by far my favorite Tech21 pedal thus far. The Doug also looks neat, but I have Darkglass for that clanky/gnarly tone.

    I also had a beloved B3K that I broke myself trying to wire a green LED into. I would have bought a B7K in its' place, but then the A/O came out and I was completely blown away.
  19. He reminds me of the Youtube guitar repair guy who hates Rics and their "horrible" trussrod design. Yeah, not such a great design in the 60's and 70's, but he ignores that the modern(81 and up) ones are just like any other trussrod, except there's two of them.

    You'd probably see my comments on his page telling people to ignore his biased opinion.
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  20. AdamR

    AdamR Supporting Member

    Sep 24, 2007
    Bethel CT
    Daves world of fun stuff LOL
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