Thoughts on heavy gauge strings in this nut

Discussion in 'Hardware, Setup & Repair [BG]' started by spantini, Jun 18, 2020.

  1. spantini

    spantini

    Jun 13, 2020
    Lakeland, FL USA
    I just replaced the original round-wound light(?) gauge on my Yamaha bass. I put on a set of La Bella Deep Talkin' Bass # 0760M. .052 .073 .095 .110. Better sound,but...

    These do bottom out in the nut and protrude a bit above. Here's a pic:



    There appears to be enough nut to file out a bit for each string - more nut than there is string above it. Could I use the old round-wound E-string to file the groove lower? Or should I use a needle file? This bass is a low-end model I'm experimenting with, seeing if I can make the OEM nut work without replacing it.

    Thanks for any help.
     
  2. SamanthaCay

    SamanthaCay Like bass guitar OMG!

    Nov 16, 2008
    Denver, CO.
    You're nut slots need to be wider not necessarily deeper, unless the depth was wrong to begin with. Guaged nut files are best, you can use all kinds of stuff but you're more likely to mess it up.
    Also a good idea if the depth is already situated you can throw some pencil marks in the bottom of the slot to let ya know if you're hitting the wrong spot.

    Last, putting a string in a nut slot cut too narrow for it is a realy easy way to break it.
     
  3. spantini

    spantini

    Jun 13, 2020
    Lakeland, FL USA
    Thanks. I didn't notice before, the E and G are nearly bottomed out but the other two are not at all - missed those. Looks like it's time to spring for some files.

    These look ok..?



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  4. sissy kathy

    sissy kathy Back to Bass-ics Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 21, 2014
    Arbutus, MD
    You're gonna spend 60-70 dollars for three files you'll use for 5 minutes and then have no further use for? Get yourself a decent set of handyman drill bits, a vernier caliper with a digital readout and a small packet of sand paper for 30 dollars. Find the appropriate size drill and wrap a piece of sand paper around the bit and do the filing that way. Once done, you will have saved 40 dollars and will have some tools that will actually be of some use to you.
     
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  5. SamanthaCay

    SamanthaCay Like bass guitar OMG!

    Nov 16, 2008
    Denver, CO.
    I think it's gonna depend on whether @spantini ever plans on doing this again. I'd say if ya like to tinker and will have more basses in the future they're a great investment.

    I bought a set of the two sided ones from stewmac when I was 18 and im now 35 and they've served me well hundreds of times.
    I can't vouch for those Hosco ones but they look right? Kinda hard to say as some files have cheap steal and some do not.
     
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  6. SamanthaCay

    SamanthaCay Like bass guitar OMG!

    Nov 16, 2008
    Denver, CO.
    Also fwiw I believe there is a welder's tool that is gauged and can work on the cheap but the name escapes me.
     
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  7. spantini

    spantini

    Jun 13, 2020
    Lakeland, FL USA
    I've already got the drill bits... and a budget digital vernier caliper would only be half the price of the file set.

    Something to consider. Thanks!
     
  8. spantini

    spantini

    Jun 13, 2020
    Lakeland, FL USA
    Could it be welding torch tip cleaners?

     
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  9. SamanthaCay

    SamanthaCay Like bass guitar OMG!

    Nov 16, 2008
    Denver, CO.
    BINGO!
     
  10. Turnaround

    Turnaround Commercial User

    May 6, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Independent Instrument Technician - Retired
    Just remember, it’s not about where the topside of the string is in relation to the nut, it’s all about where the underside of the string is in relation to the top of the first fret.
     
  11. spantini

    spantini

    Jun 13, 2020
    Lakeland, FL USA
    And they're too high now. The action is really stiff up there.
     
  12. Turnaround

    Turnaround Commercial User

    May 6, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Independent Instrument Technician - Retired
    That doesn’t mean the nut slots are too high - it mat just be a function of the heavier strings. What’s the gap at the first fret now?
     
  13. spantini

    spantini

    Jun 13, 2020
    Lakeland, FL USA
    I don't have a gauge.
     
  14. Turnaround

    Turnaround Commercial User

    May 6, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Independent Instrument Technician - Retired
    Press the string down between the second and third fret and look for a gap between the string and the first fret. It should be about the thickness of a hair. But be sure you have set the witness point at the nut first or you will get a false reading.
     
  15. sissy kathy

    sissy kathy Back to Bass-ics Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 21, 2014
    Arbutus, MD
    Last edited: Jun 18, 2020
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  16. sissy kathy

    sissy kathy Back to Bass-ics Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 21, 2014
    Arbutus, MD
    The only caution I have about this concerns the automatic on feature. When you pick it up if you don't turn it on, it will turn on when you open the caliper jaw. It will also turn on if the jaw moves the slightest amount while stored. To insure you don't kill the battery, you need to use the locking screw when storing it.
     
  17. spantini

    spantini

    Jun 13, 2020
    Lakeland, FL USA
    I'm eyeballing it at 1/16-in (1.58 mm).
     
  18. Turnaround

    Turnaround Commercial User

    May 6, 2004
    Toronto Canada
    Independent Instrument Technician - Retired
    That is far too much. As I said it should be like the thickness of a hair ( an exaggeration) - but about as close as you can get without it actually touching.
     
  19. spantini

    spantini

    Jun 13, 2020
    Lakeland, FL USA
    Thanks everyone. I'll probably go with a small file set to begin with - I can pick up a gauge later.