Thinking about picking up a G&L JB-5 in sugar pine. Like how it played, though it wasn't especially light, and am wondering how its tone might hold up in a band mix. Lots of good overtones and potential sounds to be gotten out of the bass depending on attack. But for those who have played either this particular model or other instruments made of sugar pine, in your experience how does thus-constructed instruments acquit themselves on the "Ash vs Alder" sonic and response spectrum? Especially in regards to low-mids.
Take a dozen examples of any bass made of any particular wood. They will all sound a bit different. How then, do you determine the exact role the body wood plays? You can’t. But it sure sounds nice to assign generalized descriptions of each specific variety. It would be great if we knew, without doubt or question, that the choice of wood produced a certain result. But we don’t. It won’t stop anyone from claiming that Ash and Maple is bright or Mahogany and Alder is warm or anything else you may have heard before. All you can do is roll the dice and hope it meets your expectations.
I see you didn't read the original post. "But for those who have played either this particular model or other instruments made of sugar pine, in your experience how does thus-constructed instruments acquit themselves on the "Ash vs Alder" sonic and response spectrum? Especially in regards to low-mids." Have you? No? Then this post isn't addressed to you.
IDK in regards to a bass guitar but I know I love my tele that has a sugar pine body. Its kinda heavy but its the best E.guitar Ive ever owned
OP, you ask an honest question. However, you’ve been a TB member long enough to know that your question relies on the hotly-debated concept of wood having a relevant effect on the tone of solid-body instruments. You will get some good feedback, but history has shown that you will likely get many more replies from members that disagree with or want to poke fun at the concept. And with that, good luck.
Fair enough. You're right that the history of this particular discourse is what it is. And yet, I hoped, foolishly perhaps, that adding stipulations to my request would have the effect of filtering the responses that I received. But I was mistaken, and I also happen to be old and cranky. Mea culpa for orneriness. I will say that the new inflationary $2070 pricing on that particular bass has rendered me less willing to take the plunge than I otherwise might be, and all sugar pine data points will be helpful going forward.
I assume that the density of the body, or it’s total weight has an effect on the tone, I heavier bodied bass will most likely have somewhat greater sustain. The heavier the bass is, the less comfortable you will be at the end of the third set. As for “tone”, I would guess that technique, pickup placement and model, and choice of strings would have a much greater effect on tone than the species of tree. Leo used alder because he could get lots of it cheap. If the bass has a transparent finish and you like the look of the wood, go for it
I've never played a pine bass. But my guitar player sometimes plays a pine telecaster and it's brighter and twangier than any other tele I've heard.
Not sugar pine but I made a slab body P-bass from longleaf pine. For the other slab bodies I've built ; ash, poplar, mahogany, alder, basswood and obeche were used for the body. All of them got a maple/maple neck. Most are strung through body. I can honestly say I've detected little tonal difference between any of them.
Just to put some meat on these sugar pine bones, this is the bass in question. Played it and liked the neck dimensions quite a bit; was able to do things with that 1.775 nut and 17mm bridge spacing that aren't possible with my Atelier Z Beta 5, or any combination of Lakland, Mike Lull, or Sadowsky 5s that I've owned in the past. But that list price has me a bit sticker-shocked in these inflationary times. G&L JB-5 - Pine - Old School Tobacco Sunburst #4119 - Basses - Products
Hope this helps: I picked up a G&L JB5 last December. It has a pine body (whether it's sugar pine wasn't specified), and comes in at 9.0 lbs - pretty light for a Jazz 5. This is my first extensive experience with single coils, so I have little to offer in the way of body wood comparison across Jazz basses. But, I will say that this bass is the sound, spacing, switching, and feel I've been chasing for many years. I'm home.