TI Flats vs the world...

Discussion in 'Strings [BG]' started by Elder Rynok, Jun 5, 2018.


  1. Elder Rynok

    Elder Rynok

    Feb 23, 2016
    Okay, I need everyone's help. I don't have the time to try every string under the sun. I am playing too much right now. I have been using Dunlop Flatwounds for almost 2 years I think. I loved them, but the QC is horrible. A couple of dead E strings, balance on the G string off and tinny, and 2 strings from 2 different packs that broke when tuned to pitch and plucked.

    I know you might be thinking it's the bass or it's me, you might be right, but I can't take that risk with my schedule right now.

    I am looking for a thumpy string with good grit, nice low-end growl. And grindy when I dig in with a pick and distortion. (mostly prefer flatwounds) The TI flats almost sound perfect, but I have avoided them due to worry about pick playing since they are so loose, but I have tried so many strings lately that don't feel right. I am currently giving pressurewounds a try and don't hate them, but is it even worth my time to try TI Flats?
     
  2. 2saddleslab

    2saddleslab Supporting Member

    May 30, 2003
    Kentucky
    Yes. Have them on every bass I own, hollow, semi hollow, and solid. Seems to bring out the best in each. They last forever. The tension is on the low side but they still work just as well tuned a half step down. Gotta try or you’ll never know.
     
  3. FunkHead

    FunkHead Supporting Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    TI Flats are something you have to try for yourself. They sound darn good, perhaps better than any other flat wound string. However they are floppy. I your bass allows for picking nearer the bridge than that will help immensely.

    ie; On a Rickenbacker it's nice to have the Bridge Pickup cover removed while using TI's. Then you have the freedom to find the "sweet spot" as far as tension.

    You will 100% have to change your technique to offset the low tension. How much depends on how hard you dig in.

    I don't believe Geddy Lee would ever get used to TI's. I think Bobby Vega could tear it up using them.
     
  4. Element Zero

    Element Zero Supporting Member

    Dec 14, 2016
    California
    Depends on how hard you play. I’m a bit heavy handed with fingers but have had no issues with the Jazz Flats on my Ibanez 5 string. When I use a pick I’m quite a bit more gentle and okay more towards the bridge. I was concerned about the “floppiness” that everyone on here seemed to talk about. While they are more flexible than I’m used to, I wouldn’t call them floppy.

    Pricey for sure. But the only way you’ll know is if you throw a set of em on. I also like D’Addario Chromes. Much more tight and can take quite a beating.
     
  5. Gorn

    Gorn

    Dec 15, 2011
    Queens, NY
    User error is always a possibility even among the best and brightest. You may be busy but re-examining your stringing technique might solve your problems and really shouldn’t take too long.
     
  6. Elder Rynok

    Elder Rynok

    Feb 23, 2016
    Do you play with a pick for anything? I've got a couple of songs here and there that need that harsh attack and grind from a pick.
     
  7. Elder Rynok

    Elder Rynok

    Feb 23, 2016
    Yeah, the trying is kind of the weird thing in my head. How much of a truss rod adjustment was it? I don't just want to try them at home, I'd rather try them for a practice session, but I don't want to screw up my neck by not adjusting the truss rod for too long.
     
  8. FunkHead

    FunkHead Supporting Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    When I had them on my Ric 4003, I just raised the saddles up and left the truss rods as they were. Rics are pretty easy that way with one allen screw per side. On a Fender, I would just back off the Truss rod about 1/4 to 1/2 turn and you'll be golden. Unless you unusually high tension strings on currently.
     
  9. 2saddleslab

    2saddleslab Supporting Member

    May 30, 2003
    Kentucky
    No, I don’t use a pic. Should have mentioned that, sorry. However, TI's sound so good when digging in I would imagine that would include when using a pick.
     
  10. phillipkregg

    phillipkregg Supporting Member

    Jun 8, 2010
    Nashville, TN
    My 5-string P bass has D'Addario Chromes on it and they work really well for pick or just about any other style of playing.

    At first they're surprisingly bright, but that fades after an hour or two of playing them. They have just a little bit more edge to them than other flatwounds that I've tried, and they have a lot of tension so definitely not floppy. The B string is super tight and pronounced even on a p Bass.
     
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  11. Linnin

    Linnin

    Jul 19, 2012
    Linningrad, Earth
    You just need to switch off to your roundwound strung bass for those tunes. You're just not going to get that sound out of any flat, even with a screaming Fender Super Bassman for an amp.
     
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  12. Linnin

    Linnin

    Jul 19, 2012
    Linningrad, Earth
    ^^^Agreed^^^ Extremely so. I had to keep jacking up my action higher and higher so they would play cleanly, and you can just forget aggressive plucking or picking.
     
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  13. BigBear77

    BigBear77

    Aug 30, 2017
    Labella’s? 760fls or 760fs
     
  14. 40Hz

    40Hz Supporting Member

    May 24, 2006
    home
    GHS Precision Flats should fit the bill. One of my favorite flats.

    I use TIs too. But they're more refined sounding to my ears. I don't think they'll give you what you're looking for when you dig in.
     
  15. RCH

    RCH

    May 24, 2015
    06057
    I play primarily with a pick and I like the action fairly low. I find that I tend to move the pick as parallel to the fretboard as possible to avoid buzzing on the frets. This is habit for me and works well. If you like to hit the strings with a motion toward the fretboard when digging in, you may have to raise the action. I don't like gritty myself, so I don't know how that would sound with TIs.
     
  16. Linnin

    Linnin

    Jul 19, 2012
    Linningrad, Earth
    Solid percussive bottom end attack is realm of a good flatwound such as GHS Precision flats or Fender 9050 flats. Plenty of meaty mids too. Grit & Grind/Distortion is the amp's job, and since you have a Fender Super Bassman you'll have no shortage of sonic greatness. You can get a bit of growl with a flat and a tube amp, but nothing like a roundwound. You'd be best served playing several differently strung basses. Guitar players switch off all the time. There is no reason why you can't also.
     
  17. mpdd

    mpdd neoconceptualist

    Mar 24, 2010
    LA
    i use the ti flats as a substitute for almost dead dunlop rounds, they work great with an L2000 into a mesa d180 for the heavy od live stuff and they work beautifully clean with my LB100 into the apogee jam for garage band, one thing though they do settle down and they don't maintain their newish flavor forever and it might just be me, but they see to need some wiping off or the fast fret treatment from time to time
     
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  18. Cutter8

    Cutter8 Supporting Member

    Feb 4, 2018
    Georgia
    I love TI's, but from what you have said, it sounds to me like your next stop should be D'Addario Chromes or GHS Precision flats.
     
  19. ELG60

    ELG60

    Apr 26, 2017
    Mid-Florida
    I'm a finger player. I have TI Flats on several of my Jazz basses and EB Cobalt Flats on my daily player. I enjoy the subtlety of the TI's and the relatively brightness of the EB's
    The TI's do feel a bit looser, but not annoyingly so.
     
  20. Fun Size Nick

    Fun Size Nick

    Feb 21, 2006
    Hong Kong
    I love TIs but I wouldn't describe them as thumpy unless they're a few years old. Grindy with a pick & distortion could be achieved with them though!
     
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