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time signatures?

Discussion in 'General Instruction [BG]' started by Fishbrain, Mar 15, 2002.


  1. Fishbrain

    Fishbrain

    Dec 8, 2000
    England, Liverpool
    Endorsing Artist: Warwick Bass and Amp
    oke i am kinda confused about time signatures :( i know that the top number is the number of beats in the bar and the bottom one is what beat they are eg crotchet or minum or whatever. but i don't see whay things like 2/4 and 4/4 are so different :confused: why cant you just have one bar of 4 crotchets in 4/4 instead of 2 bars of 2 crotchets in 2/4 ? or am i totally wrong here? HELP!
     
  2. jazzbo

    jazzbo

    Aug 25, 2000
    San Francisco, CA
    What's a crotchet?
     
  3. Chris Fitzgerald

    Chris Fitzgerald Student of Life Staff Member Administrator

    Oct 19, 2000
    Louisville, KY
    A motorcycle, I think.
     
  4. Isn't that what women do with string and a hooky stick thing? :p ;)
     
  5. Jeff Moote

    Jeff Moote Supporting Member

    Oct 11, 2001
    Beamsville, ON, Canada
    a crotchet is a british quarter note...
     
  6. bizzaro

    bizzaro

    Aug 21, 2000
    Vermont
    jazzbo,
    Stand in front of a mirror. ...... Reach down the front of your pants. What is in your hand? No, it isn't a crotchet. :eek:

    A crotchet is either a 1/4 note or an 1/8 note I can't remember. It is just another name for a note time value, I just can't remember which one.:confused:
     
  7. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member Administrator

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    how's that different than a regular quarter note? oh, wait, i bet they're always ahead of the beat, and a bit pinched, right? :D :eek: :rolleyes:
     
  8. JimK

    JimK

    Dec 12, 1999
    ...they(our buddies across the Pond)will also use quavers, semiquavers, etc.

    I think one is an 1/8th note, the other a 1/16th.
     
  9. Crotchets and other names like it are the terms used in traditonal european classical music.

    Crotchet = 1/4 note

    Quaver = 1/8 note

    Semiquaver = 1/16 note

    Demisemiquaver = 1/32 note

    Hemidemisemiquaver = 1/64 note

    and so on...

    Oh yeah

    Minim = 1/2 note

    Semibrieve = errr do you guys call it a whole note?

    Brieve = Twice the length of what i think you guys call a whole note.

    I am not sure if there are any other terms for longer notes, I think they employ ties for longer notes. anyone know??

    This is just the terminology i was taught at school. I think they are german terms. again, anyone know??
     
  10. Fishbrain

    Fishbrain

    Dec 8, 2000
    England, Liverpool
    Endorsing Artist: Warwick Bass and Amp
    loud and clear thank u. so its not wrong to do 2/4 not 4/4 ... just easier sumtimes, yeh?
     
  11. beermonkey

    beermonkey

    Sep 26, 2001
    Seattle, WA
    Yeah, generally you'll know when to write a piece in a certain time signature, as it just makes more sense... As I believe Ed pointed out earlier, it's all about where the pulse of the music winds up happening. It gets really obvious when something is in say 11/8. I personally am a sucker for odd meter stuff, there was a tune I played in a jazz group in college that was in 13/16 time. :D The solo section was real fun, as it was 4 bars of 13/16, 6 bars of 4/4, and then 2 bars of 13/16. Talk about a nightmare to keep straight. :D
     
  12. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    Well it does make a difference - 2/4 is usually classed as "a march" - so 2/4 is marching time!

    So most (authentic) Samba is in 2/4 as the idea is that it is marching music for the processions in the Rio Carnival and similar.