Okay, maybe he slaps a little too much at times (but I love it), but when I hear, or see in a TB thread, someone stating that that's all he can do, that he can't groove, can't play funk, I just can't believe what I'm hearing. Maybe those people have only heard his slap stuff. I must say that he grooves, both on fretted and on fretless, as much as the grooviest players ever. He can lay back or just back the song, create beautiful fills, etc. The guys ooozes with musicality. I realize we may all be a little tired of Vic-worship, but that shouldn't take away from our recognizing his mastery of the instrument, and music in general, should it?