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to beast, or not to beast?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by tm3, Oct 24, 2001.


  1. tm3

    tm3

    Oct 10, 2001
    north carolina
    i have just started looking around for my first bass, and have turned up the closeout deal on the mtd beast ($450). while i love a deal as much as anybody, i don't want to grab the beast just because it is a deal -- i want to pick the right instrument.

    i'm planning on playing classic rock (zeppelin, stones, cream, etc). no funk, new wave, etc. i've got a little experience on 6 string guitar, and realize that it's kind of tough to make a pick 'til you have some experience.

    before the beast came along my short list included a fender p (either mia or mim), and the carvin lb70, but i'm open to suggestions. $450 is a nice price but i could afford to go higher.

    sure would appreciate some feedback. thanks!
     
  2. craigb

    craigb G&L churnmeister Supporting Member

    I think the Beast at $450 is a great deal. In fact I've had two of them. I no longer have any - not because there's anything wrong with them but because I have chronic GAS. For me personally the G&L L-2000 is "it" so I've been rotating through a bunch of other basses as 2nd/3rd instruments looking for others that "stick".

    I think the overall "quality" of the Beast is a bit below the American Series Fenders (I had a '98 Am Deluxe P with the same neck/fret work). It didn't feel quite as "solid" and I think the hardware (tuners, bridge) are not quite as good as what was on the '98 deluxe P I had. The electronics, while simple, can stand up to any passive instrument. I think the zero fret is a great idea and the feel and sound of the Beast are great. I had traded for a Stingray when I got the first Beast and liked the Beast enough better (lighter weight, preferred the sound, not quite as "solid" a feel again but still very nice) that I sold the 'Ray and bought a second Beast.

    All in all I still highly recommend the Beast, particularly at the $450 price, as a super value and very nice instrument. Replace the cheapie plastic knobs and there's nothing "cheap" about it. I think it's better than a friends MIM P by a bunch and would make a super first (and last if it ends up being your sound) bass.
     
  3. tm3

    tm3

    Oct 10, 2001
    north carolina
    craigb

    thanks for the info. that is very helpful.

    i just found out that mf has the kingston for less than the price of the beast. so this may mean that i don't have to rush on this, assuming the beast and kingston are similar.
     
  4. craigb

    craigb G&L churnmeister Supporting Member

    I've only heard good things about the Kingston (and have tried one out for a short time in a local store). There are a couple of differences. The Beast is made in the Czech Republic while the Kingston is made in Korea. The conventional wisdom (which may or may not be right) is that the instruments built in the Czech Republic are higher quality. I think the Beast has a poplar body vs. basswood for the Kingston. Also the pickups in the Beast are Bartolinis while the pickup in the Kingston is unspecified. The Beast is shielded while the Kingston info does not say if it shielded or not.

    I think the Beast is a bit nicer than the Kingston and I personally prefer the jazz pickup configuration on the Beast. The Kingston is well liked by many people as well. Personally I'd go for the Heir (Kingston with a jazz-style neck pickup added) before the Kingston and definitely thing the Beast is a better value than the Kingston at the same price. However in an absolute sense the Kingston is one of the better basses at its price.

    Have fun choosing
     
  5. ebozzz

    ebozzz Supporting Member

    May 17, 2001
    Denver, Colorado
    I just wanted to let you know. I took "Da Beast" to my rehearsal last night, the first since receiving my Beast, and it sounded great. The guys that I rehearse with have years of experience playing and I got a lot a favorable comments about the tone that it provided.

    Guess what style of music we were playing? I'll share this with you. Zeppelin, Cream, Stones, Clapton, Albert Collins, Albert King and Muddy Waters just to name a few of the artists. "Da Beast" handled it all with no problems. My only complaint is that I wish that my practice mates were a little more open minded about music. They don't want to play anything unless it's got that "Classic Rock" or "Blues" kind of feel to it. I love to listen to and own a lot of that type of music. It's just that my long term goals are more jazz oriented. I'm out numbered in this group so I just go with the flow. It's an opportunity for me to develop my skills and I treat it as such. This is probably the perfect band for you though! :D

    For what you want to do, I don't think you can go wrong with "Da Beast." There's definitely some better basses out there. Although, I can't think of any for the price that you can get the MTDB at. There are certainly a lot of basses that are similar in cost to the $450.00 cost of "Da Beast" that can't hold a candle to it!

    My vote is for "Da Beast." You already knew that though.
     
  6. tm3

    tm3

    Oct 10, 2001
    north carolina
    hey, my kind of band, exactly!

    i think i offended some people once in a great guitarist discussion when i asked who else played guitar besides jimi, ec, srv, and jimmy page. my wife and i used to get in a spat about what music to play on sunday mornings while we read the paper -- i thought purple haze was perfect, but ended up agreeing to yield on jimi if she would yield on enya.

    i know, it's only rock and roll, but i like it like it yes i do!

    thanks for the input and the info!
     
  7. ebozzz

    ebozzz Supporting Member

    May 17, 2001
    Denver, Colorado
    What's wrong with your wife? Purple Haze is the IDEAL song to read your paper to! :D Don't keep us in suspense to long TM. BTW, I'll see what I can do to put you in touch with the guys in this band. You'll have a long comute to practice though! Take care.
     
  8. cassanova

    cassanova

    Sep 4, 2000
    Florida
    some other options less than $600

    Fender MIM Jazz Bass Dlx, great sounding and playing bass, very versatile, great bang for the buck,

    Peavey Fury- Great sounding, playing, and looking bass. 3 band eq, I was really suprised at this bass, as I used to dispise peavey. Great bang for the buck.
     
  9. tm3

    tm3

    Oct 10, 2001
    north carolina
    yep, the mim fender was what i originally was shooting for.

    then i realized that there were other options to consider and ...