To Ramp or Not to Ramp.....

Discussion in 'Hardware, Setup & Repair [BG]' started by NJL, Jul 11, 2003.

  1. I use a ramp

    16 vote(s)
    18.8%
  2. I don't use a ramp

    27 vote(s)
    31.8%
  3. What is a ramp and what is it used for

    37 vote(s)
    43.5%
  4. I will only use a ramp if it is made from carrots...

    5 vote(s)
    5.9%
  1. NJL

    NJL

    Apr 12, 2002
    San Antonio
    I have been thinking about those ramps that Gary Wills, Roscoe Beck and Matt Garrison use.

    I dig in alot and wonder if this would do anything to my playing. My little lady is doing her wood working thing and may have her design me a few for my basses.

    What do you think about these ramps?
     
  2. I always use a ramp to get my cabs on and off stage.....


    oh, I guess this was about something else, sorry...;)
     
  3. NJL

    NJL

    Apr 12, 2002
    San Antonio
    bump...:(
     
  4. JMX

    JMX Vorsprung durch Technik

    Sep 4, 2000
    Cologne, Germany
    I don't use a ramp on my main bass, but I "play the pickups" for a similar effect.
     
  5. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Inactive

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    DR Strings
    Me too.
     
  6. Taylor Livingston

    Taylor Livingston Supporting Member Commercial User

    Dec 25, 2002
    Oregon, US
    Owner, Iron Ether Electronics
    Very rarely do I find it useful to play over the pickups. I wouldn't want a ramp. The pickups get the job done when it's needed, and leave me room to dig in. I really hate the look of ramps that don't match the top or finish. Just a big black slab covering up beautiful wood. :spit: But diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks. :)
     
  7. Fliptrique

    Fliptrique

    Jul 22, 2002
    Szczecin, Poland
    Endorsing Artist: Mayones Guitars&Basses
    i have a ramp between my pickups and i like it. i`m able to dig in quite hard, it`s a bit more comfortable and - first of all - makes me look like a jazz-wanabe poser, and that`s the main reason i got it;)
     
  8. Davo737

    Davo737

    Feb 29, 2000
    Syracuse, NY
    I've only played one bass that had a ramp, and it wasn't for me. I don't dig in very hard, but I do play with the fleshy parts of my fingers to get my tone, and I found that I just coudn't get 'under' the strings as much as I would have liked.

    lates,
    dave
     
  9. NJL

    NJL

    Apr 12, 2002
    San Antonio
    flip,

    did you make the ramp or buy it?
     
  10. Fliptrique

    Fliptrique

    Jul 22, 2002
    Szczecin, Poland
    Endorsing Artist: Mayones Guitars&Basses
    actually i`ve made several of them:)
     
  11. bollefen

    bollefen

    Mar 13, 2003
    CT
    saw the picture on the kinal not sure if i like it :meh:

    but i really can't figure out what it used for or how it is used :confused:

    bill
     
  12. Had a ramp originally in the design of my custom. But I asked the luthier to omit it from the plans when I finally tried a ramped bass and found the ramp screwed up my slap n' pop. I also saw that when I used a pick, the pick would eventually chew up the ramp.

    Moreover, I found I really didn't gain much by having my plucking fingers arched higher over, (more perpendicular to), the strings.

    Of course, that's only pertinent to MY technique...YMMV.
     
  13. Check out Gary Willis' site for what has already been said here:

    Gary Willis site

    For the comfort of playing at the neck like you are on the pickup, I prefer a thumbrest style ramp like those on the Caron F Bass. Then it doesn't affect slap/pop playing, or prevent digging in.

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  14. Frank Martin

    Frank Martin Bitten by the luthiery bug...

    Oct 8, 2001
    Budapest, Hungary, EU
    After looking at the posts I found out what was meant by ramp. no, i dont use one and dont think i ever will. for a thumbrest, a B-string is enough for most of the time :D
    when i have to use the B then I put my thumb on either the neck p/u or the neck and variate with the angle and distance of my thumb and index finger. worked so far, I can reach the bridge pu easily from the neck pu. i can get a decent dig-in tone without a ramp, too.
     
  15. NJL

    NJL

    Apr 12, 2002
    San Antonio
    bump....

    :smug:
     
  16. XavierG

    XavierG In Memoriam

    Ummm...yah, me too! Now I look like that Bruce Willis guy.
     
  17. XavierG

    XavierG In Memoriam

    Say, Tumbao... I'd never seen a Kinal with a "between pickup ramp". How does that one feel.

    Here's a Willis ramp on a Kinal..
     
  18. Figjam

    Figjam

    Aug 5, 2003
    Boston, MA
    No ramps for me.
     
  19. Davehenning

    Davehenning

    Aug 9, 2001
    Los Angeles
    I have a ramp on my stingray fretless 5. It takes a bit of getting used to, but it does help. It all depends on how you set it up. The Mouradian shop in Boston made mine for me out of an un-used 30+ year old rosewood guitar fingerboard. IMO, it feels good under the fingers.

    I have played Matt Garrison's bass a few times and his action is incredibly low. By far the lowest action of any bass I have played. The ramp seems give a physical parameter to work within. I don't think that his bass could be played without it due to his set-up.

    To keep it from messing up the slap+pop thing, just have it made so there is some space between where the fingerboard ends and the ramp starts.

    Hope this helps.
     
  20. BassFiddle63

    BassFiddle63

    Oct 4, 2002
    Oklahoma
    I've been thinking about puting a ramp on my R Bass 5 SC but I want it to be removable if I decide I don't like it in 6 months .... what do you guys use to mount these with?