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Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by resol, Apr 19, 2005.


  1. resol

    resol Guest

    Feb 21, 2005
    for those who have ordered cabs from the US - and better still, live in Sydney - how much does the tax and duty add up to (exact if possible)? i'm considering buying an aggie gs112 from basscentral or bassnw, and i'm looking at about US$645 b4 taxes and duties...

    thanx guys :smug:
     
  2. Marlat

    Marlat

    Sep 17, 2002
    London UK
    Duty will be 5% of the total shipping and purchase costs.

    GST will be 10% of that total.

    SO lets say it costs $1200Aus to ship

    $1200 * 0.05 = $60

    $1260 * 0.10 = $126

    Total = $1386

    Plus you will have to pay a customs clearance broker to clear the package as it costs over $1000Aus. This means that you will be up for somewhere between $100-200 Aus in addition to the cost above.
     
  3. Petebass

    Petebass

    Dec 22, 2002
    QLD Australia
    That's not quite right.

    The 5% is levied on the value of the goods without shipping. Using todays exchange rate, that's 5% of $835 = $42ish.

    The 10% GST is levied on the value of the goods+Shipping+the 5% customs duty. Just t keep the example going, we'll assume shipping is $1,200, so (835+1200+42)*10% = $208.

    Customs also charge a flat $53 entry fee. If they decide to quarantine them for whatever reason (they sometimes do this at random) it's another $44.

    So your looking at $835 for the cab + $1200 shipping + $42 customs+ $208 GST + $53 entry fee + $44 quarantine (maybe). Grant total is about $2,382.00

    I don't think the shipping will be $1200, probably closer to $800. Might be an idea to get Basscentral to work the shipping out for you. Maybe try UPS website as well, they have a page where you can get rough shipping quotes, though it usually works out more expensive than having the other party negotiate it for you, especially if they're a regular shipping customer.

    http://wwwapps.ups.com/calTimeCost?loc=en_US
     
  4. Marlat

    Marlat

    Sep 17, 2002
    London UK
    SOrry to step back Pete (and take your point on the duty being levied ex-shipping) the cost of $1200 I was using was inclusive of the cost of the cabinet. I don't think it would run to even close to $800 - I would have thought shipping would be $200-400 tops.
     
  5. Petebass

    Petebass

    Dec 22, 2002
    QLD Australia
    Sorry you're right. the UPS link above dished out prices of between $330 and $400. They ask a lot of questions though and I just guessed a few.

    Shall we work it all out based on $400 shipping? Lets go!

    GST changes from the above example. It's now (835+400+42)*10% = $128.

    So the overall cost is :-
    $835 for the cab + $400 shipping + $42 customs+ $128 GST + $53 entry fee + $44 quarantine (maybe). Grant total is about $1,502.

    Sorry about the previous scare.
     
  6. Marlat

    Marlat

    Sep 17, 2002
    London UK
    Thats of course he can do the custom's clearance work himself. If he goes through a broker it will be more expensive (subtract the $42) and add between $100-$200.

    Hey Pete we should come up with a calculator for this thing...imagine how much crap we would buy from overseas then! :D
     
  7. Petebass

    Petebass

    Dec 22, 2002
    QLD Australia
    I've done it! It's a spreadsheet I knocked up before I bought in some stuff from Spain recently. I'd email it around except I don't know if anyone but me could understand it :)
     
  8. Marlat

    Marlat

    Sep 17, 2002
    London UK
    Ah...you must be an accountant then :D
     
  9. Petebass

    Petebass

    Dec 22, 2002
    QLD Australia
    excuuuuuuuuse me, I refuse to take jibes about my employment from a damn lawyer. Seems I have to headbutt one of your kind at least once a week, not including you :)
     
  10. Marlat

    Marlat

    Sep 17, 2002
    London UK
    That's ironic because lawyers use the words "head" and "butt" in the same sentence as "accountant" quite a bit :D
     
  11. Petebass

    Petebass

    Dec 22, 2002
    QLD Australia
    (Homer Voice on) It's funny coz it's true (Homer voice off)

    :D
     
  12. Marlat

    Marlat

    Sep 17, 2002
    London UK
    Useful and informative thread successfully derailed! :)
     
  13. resol

    resol Guest

    Feb 21, 2005
    guys, its US$368 for the cab, US$275 for shipping - lets try to make that clear...

    that means:

    Levy = 0.05*369 = 18.45
    GST = 0.10*(369+275+18.45) = 46.425
    Total = 369 + 275 + 18.45 + 46.425 = 708.80

    ...thats about AU$917, right?

    and whats all this "customs clearance" stuff? how can i do this myself? or shud i get a broker????
     
  14. Danm

    Danm

    Sep 24, 2003
    Canberra Australia
    You forgot the exchange rate.

    $368 Cab
    $275 Shipping
    =$643 US
    x0.77 ( Spot rate I found, close enuf )
    =$835 ish
    + Levy = $23.90 (.05 of converted cost - shipping )
    +GST =$85.89

    Equals the grand total of ( drumroll please ) $945 ish

    Plus clearance fees.....

    I can't beleive I just worked all that out & it's not even my cab.....

    :hyper: :bassist:
     
  15. Petebass

    Petebass

    Dec 22, 2002
    QLD Australia
    Oh Ok.

    Do the currency conversion first. All the taxes need to be worked out in Austr dollars.

    The cab is AUS$476, and the shipping is AUS$356.

    Customs is 5% of $476 = $24

    GST is 10% of $476+$356+24 = $86

    Total = 476 cab + 356 shipping + 24 customs duty + 86 GST +53 entry fee + 44 quarantine = Aus$1,039
     
  16. Danm

    Danm

    Sep 24, 2003
    Canberra Australia
    That's what I said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    :bag:
     
  17. Petebass

    Petebass

    Dec 22, 2002
    QLD Australia
    Yeah but you're a mere CSI fingerprint expert computer geek. I'm an Accountant :)
     
  18. Danm

    Danm

    Sep 24, 2003
    Canberra Australia
    And you really want to publicise that fact???????

    The accountant part that is.....

    ( mumbles something about heads & butts.......... )

    Just funnin :)
     
  19. resol

    resol Guest

    Feb 21, 2005
    doing the currency coversion b4 or after wudn't matter would it?

    think: eg. say we have $1000...

    [1000/(0.77)]*(0.10) = [1000*(0.10)]/(0.77)

    ...where spot rate is 0.77 and GST is 0.10
    - its all order of operations - anyone know BODMAS?

    - end of maths lesson -

    so the only thing i missed when getting $917 was the entry fee?
     
  20. Petebass

    Petebass

    Dec 22, 2002
    QLD Australia
    Yes but you're only interested in the overall total. At some stage you're gonna have to make certain payments to certain people. My way makes it easier to calculate how much goes to Bass Central, how much goes to the Govt.