I've heard this bass a few times at different music shops, and the tone is very fat and warm, especially for the price tag. I frankly don't care what it says on a headstock, and am looking for a great tone, and the Tobias 5ers sound pretty nice. I just want to know if anyone owns one, or knows someone who owns one, and if they have any downsides I have looked over. I'm gonna check em out this weekend to make sure I like it, and I want to know if I should look for anything in particular (like if there are any bad traits in Tobias I should know of/look for before I buy.) Thanks. BTW, I know someone in Talk Bass owns one, cause I saw his bass in one of his pictures. Heh, I'd like that guys opinion and any others.