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Tommy The Cat - Suck On This

Discussion in 'Tablature and Notation [BG]' started by seventhson, Aug 22, 2005.


  1. seventhson

    seventhson Supporting Member

    Aug 12, 2005
    Seattle, WA
    All the tabs I've ever seen were wrong, dammit! Here is my version...



    G||4-------------------------------||
    D||2-----------3h5---5-----5-----0-||
    A||--------------------------------||
    E||----0-3-x-x-----5---5-4---3-0---||

    ---1---+---2---+---3---+---4---+---
    (count)



    The 3rd G on the D string on beat 4 may not be correct, but I can't tell cause there's a snare hit right there, but it makes sense.
     
  2. Mark Wilson

    Mark Wilson Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jan 12, 2005
    Toronto, Ontario
    Endorsing Artist: Elixir® Strings
    Personally, I play it like this:


    G||4-----------------------------------||
    D||4-----------3h5-----5-----5-----0--||
    A||------------------------------------||
    E||----0h3-x-x-----5-x---3-3----0-----||

    That's just my rendition.I play with alot more mutes throughout the song.
     
  3. seventhson

    seventhson Supporting Member

    Aug 12, 2005
    Seattle, WA
    I agree that when playing that riff, most of the notes are muted. What I tabbed out in the last part of the measure were various notes I heard him play out of like a dozen times he played that riff through the 1st verse (not intro). I kind of loosely fret those notes and actually prefer the muted sound.

    apart from the 1st strum (which is an 8th note), the rest are 16th notes (whether muted or played). I am pretty sure that the 3rd G on the D string comes on the snare hit on 4. And I'm pretty sure that the 2nd G on the D string comes right after a single 16th note after the hammer-on to the 1st G on the D string.

    Whatever, it really doesn't matter. When you get those 16th note mutes moving at 120+ bpms, people are doing this: \m/\m/

    :)
     
  4. Mark Wilson

    Mark Wilson Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jan 12, 2005
    Toronto, Ontario
    Endorsing Artist: Elixir® Strings
    If I ever figure out how to record a bass track, i'll send ya a PM!
     
  5. For either of those tabs, what technique(s) would you use?
     
  6. seventhson

    seventhson Supporting Member

    Aug 12, 2005
    Seattle, WA


    G||4-------------------------------||
    D||2-----------3h5---5-----5-----0-||
    A||--------------------------------||
    E||----0h3-x-x-----5---4-4---3-0---||

    ---1---+---2---+---3---+---4---+---
    (count)


    I kind of revised my rendition. I prefer Geddy's hammer on to the G on the low E. Also, I changed the 5-4 to a 4-4 on the low E. Easier to not foobar when you're playing really fast, and those are mostly muted anyway. And the main thing about this riff is the percussive nature of it rather than the actual notes.

    Except for the hammer ons, I strum the chord with the nail of my ring finger, slap with my thumb on the E string and pop with my ring on the D string.
     
  7. hateater

    hateater snatch canadian cream

    May 4, 2001
    Eugene, OR
    Not to diss on anyone, but isn't it originally played on a 6 string? I have heard many people (including myself) flub around and get close, but I have never heard anyone lay it down like Les on the 6.



    Or am I crazy?


    El Edito- I didn't know Geddy Lee was a member at talkbass! OHEMGEE!
     
  8. seventhson

    seventhson Supporting Member

    Aug 12, 2005
    Seattle, WA
    Well, I transcribed it from Suck on This which he recorded live with a 4 string.

    On Sailing...Cheese, he uses his 6 string fretless, but he doesn't use the low B. And he only uses the high C string/fret 4 (at least for the main riff) to play an E with the B on beat 1 (which is the same note as the E on the D string/2nd fret).

    BTW, even though I got the notes right, I wasn't soundling like the recording until I figured out the key to making this riff sound right. Even though the majority of the riff is very percussive and muted, you HAVE to keep the 3 G's on the D string fretted and let them ring (well at least the 1st 2 G's). Listen close and you'll hear it.
     
  9. Mark Wilson

    Mark Wilson Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jan 12, 2005
    Toronto, Ontario
    Endorsing Artist: Elixir® Strings
    For the chords, I downstroke with my middle finger.

    Later on in the song, Les doubles the chords making it

    G||4-4-----------------------------------||
    D||4-4----------3h5-----5-----5-----0--||
    A||------------------------------------||
    E||----0h3-x-x-----5-x---3-3----0-----||

    There, you'd strum down with your middle, then pull back up. Kind of like a pick.
     
  10. sLiPkNoT_mAgGoT

    sLiPkNoT_mAgGoT

    Jul 24, 2005
    Australia
    can anyone actually play the bass solo in this song decent
     
  11. hateater

    hateater snatch canadian cream

    May 4, 2001
    Eugene, OR
    I just want to add to this thread that I think Les is as overrated as Flea. IMO of course.
     
  12. Mark Wilson

    Mark Wilson Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jan 12, 2005
    Toronto, Ontario
    Endorsing Artist: Elixir® Strings
    No.
     
  13. i can.... sort of ;-)


    i useally play it like this

    C||(4)on 6 string---------------------||
    G||-4--------------------------------||
    D||(2)on 4------3h5-----5-----5---0-||
    A||----------------------------------||
    E||-----0h3-3-x-----x-4---3-3----0--||

    or liek this on a four sometimes

    G||-0h4------------------------------||
    D||-------------3h5-----5-----5---0-||
    A||----------------------------------||
    E||-----0h3-3-x-----x-4---3-3----0--||
     
  14. Ben Rose

    Ben Rose

    Jan 12, 2004
    Oakland

    Stanley Clarke can. ;) IIRC, Les's live bass solo from Suck On This borrows heavily from Stanley Clarke's School Days era bass solos. Check out Stanley's Live 76-77 Album. Claypool has mentioned a big Stanley Clarke influence in early interviews.
     
  15. sLiPkNoT_mAgGoT

    sLiPkNoT_mAgGoT

    Jul 24, 2005
    Australia
    i mean any one on this forum :spit:
     
  16. seventhson

    seventhson Supporting Member

    Aug 12, 2005
    Seattle, WA
    I'll eventually get it nailed. It just takes practice, practice, and more practice.
     
  17. sLiPkNoT_mAgGoT

    sLiPkNoT_mAgGoT

    Jul 24, 2005
    Australia
    can anyone give me some advice on how to play it i cant get the feel for it
     
  18. sLiPkNoT_mAgGoT

    sLiPkNoT_mAgGoT

    Jul 24, 2005
    Australia
    or could someone make me a guitar pro version for a 4 string bass
     
  19. Broadbent

    Broadbent

    Mar 28, 2007
    Sorry to break out an old topic, But I've recently been learning Suck on This by ear and tabbing it out. Here is what I hear. Time references Suck on this version. Any comments, improvments, notes etc please don't be scared to reply!

    Code:
    Tommy the Cat
    
    0:07
    
      
    G-2-4----------------------------------------------
    D-4-4--------3h5--5----5----0----------------------
    A--------------------------------------------------
    E-----0h3-xx----x---xx---xx------------------------
      S S T   TT P  T P TT P TT p 
    1:01
    
    G--------------------------------------------------
    D--------------------------------------------------
    A--14-14---12\\------------------------------------
    E--------------------------------------------------
    
    
    1:02
    G-2-4----------------------------------------------
    D-4-4--------3h5--5----5----0----------------------
    A--------------------------------------------------
    E-----0h3-xx----x---xx---xx------------------------
      S S T   TT P  T P TT P TT p 
    
    2:06
    
    
    G--------------------------------------------------
    D-//13\\\------------------------------------------
    A--------------------------------------------------
    E--------------------------------------------------
    
    2:07
    
    G-2-4----------------------------------------------
    D-4-4--------3h5--5----5----0----------------------
    A--------------------------------------------------
    E-----0h3-xx----x---xx---xx------------------------
      S S T   TT P  T P TT P TT p 
    
    2:39
    
    G-2-4----------------------------------------------
    D-4-4-------3h5------------------------------------
    A--------------------------------------------------
    E-----0h3-x-------00-0--0-0------------------------
      S S T   T P     TT T  T T
    
    2;41
    
    G-2-4----------------------------------------------
    D-4-4--------3h5--5----5----0----------------------
    A--------------------------------------------------
    E-----0h3-xx----x---xx---xx------------------------
      S S T   TT P  T P TT P TT p 
    
    2:47
    
    G-9-9----------------------------------------------
    D-9-9---------8h10---10----10----0-----------------
    A--------------------------------------------------
    E------0h8-xx------x----xx----xx-------------------
    
    
    G--12-12-11-11-10-10-10-10-------------------------
    D--12-12-11-11-10-10-10-10-------------------------
    A--------------------------------------------------
    E--------------------------------------------------
    
    
    3:01
    
    G-999-8--777-6--5555-------------------------------
    D-999-8--777-6--5555-------------------------------
    A--------------------------------------------------
    E--------------------------------------------------
    
    
    3:04
    
    G-2-4----------------------------------------------
    D-4-4-------3h5--5----5----0-----------------------
    A--------------------------------------------------
    E-----0h3-x----x---xx---xx-------------------------
      S S T   T P  T P TT P TT p 
    
    
    G--7-7-6-6-5-5-5-5---------------------------------
    D--7-7-6-6-5-5-5-5---------------------------------
    A--------------------------------------------------
    E---------------------0----------------------------
    
                          /\ last time only
    3:27 SOLO
    
    mean ol' distortion
    
    whammy bar bends slightly
    
                       Distortion off
    G-4------4-------------------------------------------
    D-4------3---------99--9-----------------------------
    A-2------2-------------------------------------------
    E----------------------------------------------------
    
    
    G------------------7-------------10-10-11-11-9-9---9----
    D----------7---------9--xx---9---10-10-11-11-9-9---9----
    A---5---------9-xx--------------------------------------
    E-0---7-xx----------------------------------------------
      T P T TT P  T TT P P  TT   P  
    
    
    G---------------------6--7-x6-x4---------------------
    D--------------0h5h7--6--7-x6-x4---------------------
    A--------0h5h7---------------------------------------
    E-0h5h7----------------------------------------------
    
    
    
       [3]       [3]
    G--------------------------------------------------
    D------------777-6---------------------------------
    A--000-7-8-9-------7-6-----------------------------
    E----------------------7-6-5-4---------------------
    
    
    G--------------------------------------------------
    D---------5-4--------------------------------------
    A-000-6-7------5-0-4-5-----------------------------
    E--------------------------------------------------
    
    
    
    This next run is so fast you can probably get away with just sliding up the G string. heres what I can make out
    
    
    triplets
    
    G-7-6-5---8-7-6---9-8-7---10-9-8---11-10-9---12-11-10---13-12-11---14-13-12--
    D----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    A----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    E----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
         
    
    G-14-13-12~-----------------------------------------------
    D------------13-12-11~------------------------------------
    A-----------------------13-12-10b11b10--------------------
    E---------------------------------------------------------
    
         
    
    G----------------------------------------------------------------
    D-10--------------10-9---------9-8-----8-7-----7-6-----6---6-----
    A----12-11--10~--------10--9--------9-8-----8-7-----7-6---5---5--
    E----------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    
    
    
    G-10----10------10----10------10----10-----10-----10----12----12--
    D-----------------------------------------------------------------
    A-----------------------------------------------------------------
    E----xx------------xx-----------xx------------xx-----------xx-----
      
      P  TT P       P  TT P       P TT  P      P  TT  P     P  TT  P
    
    
    
    More triplets
    
    
    
    G-------------------------10-11-12-14-15-14-12--15-14-12--15-14-12--15-14-12--
    D-------------10-11-12-13-----------------------------------------------------
    A-10-11-12-13-----------------------------------------------------------------
    E-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    G-15-14-12--15-14-12--15-14-12--15-14-12--15-14-12--15-14-12--15-14-12--15-14-12---------
    D----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    A----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    E----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    G-15-14-12---------15-14-12---------15-14-12---------15-14-12----------------------
    D---------15-14-12---------15-14-12---------15-14-12---------15-14-12--------------
    A----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    E----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    G-17-16-14---------17-16-14---------17-16-14----------17-16-14-------------------
    D---------17-15-14---------17-15-14----------17-15-14---------17-15-14-----------
    A--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    E--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    
    G-19-17-16----------19-17-16---------19-17-16---------16-17-19-16-17-19---
    D----------19-17-16---------19-17-16---------19-17-16---------------------
    A-------------------------------------------------------------------------
    E-------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    G-14/15/16/17/18/19/21-----------------------------
    D--------------------------------------------------
    A--------------------------------------------------
    E--------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Distortion
    
    G-15-14---14-13---12---11--------------------------
    D-15-14---14-13---12---11--------------------------
    A-13\12---12-11---10---9---------------------------
    E--------------------------------------------------
    
    
    no distortion
    
    4:15
    play with vocal breaks till the end
    
    G-2-4----------------------------------------------
    D-4-4--------3h5--5----5----0----------------------
    A--------------------------------------------------
    E-----0h3-xx----x---xx---xx------------------------
      S S T   TT P  T P TT P TT p 
     
  20. Well he uses the B for a bunch of variations and stuff, but it's true you can manage jus fine w/o it w/o most people noticing...