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tongue and bass...

Discussion in 'Recordings [BG]' started by deepbob, Oct 24, 2002.


  1. deepbob

    deepbob

    Oct 3, 2001
    left field
    :rolleyes:

    *explicit lyrics warning*

    lil bit. political content too (recommend avoiding 'hey george' if you're a GOP sympathiser), try to look past it if you can.

    this is psycadelic tunage designed to be listened to under such circumstances and requires lots of volume/stamina to appreciate.

    good luck...


    tongue and bass
    (schmee) :eek:

    band-aids (straight)

    it's all fine for now
    so we don't need to fight
    cause we're stuck on band-aids
    and not wrong or right

    we're stuck on details
    and gallup's big poll
    not taking the right toll
    of every chance roll

    it's all part of the way
    of entering the light
    of fighting the good fight
    and putting it all right

    it's all fine for now
    so we don't need to fight
    cause we're stuck on band-aids
    and not wrong or right



    it's all fine for now
    so we don't need to fight
    cause we're stuck on band-aids
    and not wrong or right

    or putting it kinda
    just leaving it well
    in our political hell
    we're just wishin things well

    reactionary made
    independence pollution
    that makes us all slaves
    in the Man's institution

    it's all fine for now
    so we don't need to fight
    cause we're stuck on band-aids
    and not wrong or right

    remind me ('peaking' remix)

    (instrumental)

    pluralistic ignorance

    we're under the gun,
    and we gotta run,
    we're under the gun,

    which way do we go?
    your running the show,
    which way do we go?

    what you gonna do?
    who you goin screw?
    what you gonna do?

    we're under the gun,
    and we gotta run,
    we're under the gun.

    layers

    (instrumental)

    down low

    (instrumental)

    hey george

    at least your consistent
    and your argument's persistant
    idiosynchro-matic, pluralistic ignorance
    it doesn't really seem to make a damn bit of difference

    your poppa made our bed, while fighting the nasty red
    the communist disorder, the economic border
    where all ameri-cana pissed and barked,
    and spit out new-world orders

    and after so many buried and dead
    and with all these ideas, in all of our heads
    you take power from the Feds
    by giving power to the Feds, instead

    yes, that's what i said,
    - despite making no sense -
    you'd think i was ****ing dense
    you'd think i'd have no defense

    but at least your consistent
    yeah, that's what i said
    cause at the end of the day,
    "do what i say, not what i did"

    it's the message for all today
    even martha said, "that's the way"
    and way far out, in the chill of the right
    endless ranks salivate, all ready to fight

    and even if your mind is closed
    and well after the question is posed
    even doin what you're supposed
    with your red, white and blue eyes closed

    you won't see - believe me - can't see the light,
    can't look around while you're in the good fight
    can't see what others around you just might
    but at least your consistent, and all that, despite...

    crossed purposes changing each social season,
    supplanting causes with treachery and treason,
    vested interests all paid for and special
    just turning the tide, of logic and reason

    to meet your political ends, and little else
    to feed your billionare friends, and little else
    to need/knead the world's dough, and it just goes to show
    how little we understand, and how little we know

    how little we act and little we go
    hiding neath the corporate shelter's ego
    like a proud pink tent, in a circus side-show
    at least we're consistent, in how we make the dough

    it's the same damn recipe we're servin up
    and Barnum indeed, had it all figured out
    and while Teddy cut the foundation nation
    few Americans know what this game's about

    they're thinking of God and the toil of manufacture
    of Adam Smith pasture, and national rapture
    of grounds high and moral, of political spoils...
    a competive, productive, mericratic, hydrofoil

    but way back when, and at the beginning
    back when even America wasn't yet winning
    the people elsewhere, of all race and creed
    weren't around, and failed to heed

    the shot heard round the world
    the starting gun of a modern age
    the resource race of a thousand grabs
    the lessons learned from Sun Tzu's page

    employed to win a race of slavers
    a nation led through positional favor
    will no one stop this ancient, headless monster?
    the unilateral, republican, corporate sponsor...

    billions in distress, it's all a ****ing mess
    and all we can do is pass the buck
    hit the bible, pray for luck
    you know we're not the ones to give a ****

    but at least we're consistent
    you can judge by our path
    the proof is in the pudding, you know?
    the proof is how we act

    at least we're consistent
    at least our argument is consistent
    sufficiently superficial, causes artificial
    and the truth of the world is still ignored

    goin fer a jog

    (instrumental)

    band-aids (psilocybin)

    it's all fine for now
    so we don't need to fight
    cause we're stuck on band-aids
    and not wrong or right

    we're stuck on details
    and gallup's big poll
    not taking the right toll
    of every chance roll

    it's all part of the way
    of entering the light
    of fighting the good fight
    and putting it all right

    it's all fine for now
    so we don't need to fight
    cause we're stuck on band-aids
    and not wrong or right



    it's all fine for now
    so we don't need to fight
    cause we're stuck on band-aids
    and not wrong or right

    or putting it kinda
    just leaving it well
    in our political hell
    we're just wishin things well

    reactionary made
    independence pollution
    that makes us all slaves
    in the Man's institution

    it's all fine for now
    so we don't need to fight
    cause we're stuck on band-aids
    and not wrong or right

    made it! ('all our tomorrow' remix)

    (instrumental)

    ;)

    NB: no guitars were used in the recording of tongue and bass.
     
  2. deepbob

    deepbob

    Oct 3, 2001
    left field
    c'mon what kinda critics are you?

    hehe seriously, i know there is a ton of musical rubbish in this stuff, but i'm looking for specific issues to focus on and would greatly appreciate any comments in the negative. even if for half of one song cause that's all you could stand =)

    i'm trying to straddle a very "uncomfortable" sound quite intentionally as it suits the political tone of the words set against this, or pulls off the psycadelic effect desired.

    trying to create stark constrasts between good playing and terrible playing in layers which reveal the dissonence between the two, and am enjoying the result, especially in it's psycadelic properties.

    also trying to "paint" impressionisticly using multiple layers of bass, percussion and voice. everything here is improvised except words which are usually recrafted poems to fit the musical structure - which is why the jams often have no apparant compositional structure, and even sometimes confuse completely.

    usually when musicians are presented with crap they have little problem tearing it apart - why so shy?

    i know momma said if you don't have anything nice to say not to say it, but please bag on it as much as you can - i need the opposite of nice =)
     
  3. well, if the words are that important, you might want to try to record the vocals in a more straightforward way, because they're almost unintelligible. i like the music though. it's weird as hell, like psychedelic/jungle or something.
     
  4. deepbob

    deepbob

    Oct 3, 2001
    left field
    hey thanks, exactly the reaction i'm trying to achieve.

    my direct inspirations here are the cocktau twins, and linton kwesi johnson's poetic structure (without any pretense of being able to hang with that kind of dub reggae), a penchant for jazz/funk/afro/latin rythm, and a lifetime of psycadelic worship to guide my intuition (a la hendrix, floyd, grateful dead).

    thing with the words, while they are often a critical spike to setting the tone - they are sometimes intentionally difficult to percieve. sometimes it's because i'm trying to layer the same thought in three different ways over time, so that individually they mean nothing but collectively become interprettable.

    eg the second version of 'band-aids' where i sing in 4 layers and intentionally make each track indistinguishable on it's own, but collectively represent something interprettable. i love the expression that can come out of trying to interpret something 16 different ways in the same space of time.

    and sometimes i just want people to feel the mood, and would love them to want to listen again, exactly because something didn't make sense the first go around. an old and overused psycadelic trick i suppose.

    however, i've tried to build a lot in this stuff to reward the listener if they come back to it, and if they listen to it in different sound configurations.

    but admittedly, i'm no singer, nor sound engineer and have fudged a few areas where i'd like the articulation of words to be more audible, or in the other direction, have an individual voice track that's too loud at times.

    what i'd love to hear from you real bassists is whether my complete lack of bass technique (been playing about 6 months with out a pick, all five fingers on my right hand and basic knowledge of only the blues scale off of B and E and how to arppegio decently) - is getting in the way of my bass improvising here.

    ie, am i playing bass clean enough to get across the jamming here, despite the lack of jaco-like technique?

    "layers" for example is just meant to be a good ole fashioned blues jam voiced in a technologically amusing array that should be overwhelming to the sober ear, but crystal clear to the 'inebriated'.

    you guys hearing decent blues there or am i kidding myself?

    other palces, i'm trying to come up with new stuff entirely, like down low - what the hell style is that? you tell me.

    i appreciate a lot of the other crap here is mostly ear candy in basic harmonics and rythmical trusims, like 1/2 second delaying simple 120 bpm rythms for a psycadelic fold effect - but hey it's fun as hell as let's me make my point =)

    extra A+ for effort if you've read this far. much thanks.

    -deep
     
  5. Dave Castelo

    Dave Castelo

    Apr 19, 2000
    Mexico
    lazy ones?

    sorry :)
     
  6. RedV

    RedV

    Mar 19, 2002
    Eustis, FL
    They're not bad; I admire you for putting all of that work up for criticism...kudos to you:)

    Your playing's not sloppy or anything..not bad at all, really. I think you're getting your point across just fine doing what you're doing. Keep at it.

    Alex
     
  7. deepbob

    deepbob

    Oct 3, 2001
    left field
    very kind indeed.

    i posted this awhile back but dint label it very well, or bump it or anything and it disappeared super fast. perhaps this'll get a few more listens...

    you folks remember the notion of albums? this one predates "tongue and bass" by about two weeks, and is more diverse, Super-cheesy to tastefully-cheesy.

    album 4, "some basstistics" is on the way, with two songs down and around 6ish to go. album 1, "early times" is too ridiculous for this place =P

    schmee proudly presents**:
    musolitics.

    --______________
    our thang
    1.41 Mbs, 3.32 Mins

    hit me now with the big wet sound
    hit me trippy like a muther ****ing hippy - just doin our thang
    just doin our thang

    that's the thing like a big red mustang
    do a buck twenty, make it fun if - if you're gonna hang
    we're just doin our thang

    hit me now with the improv sound
    hit me multicolor, let me hear the other - doing our thang
    just doin our thang

    that's the thing cant swing with the gang bang
    master feat hits the (up)beat, tastes sweet, and won't meet doin our thang
    doin our thang

    hit me now with the trickle down sound
    hippy sound, the hippy revolution, evolutionary swing
    just doin our thang,

    all around the world
    all the boys and girls


    --______________
    signal
    1.4 Mbs, 3.31 Mins

    on the road, in our car all the time
    you know what we don't, at this opportune time

    a tip of your hat, would be really quite fine
    at the signal, and in a car fast as mine

    but the phone and the kids and the cop in the road
    have you thinking of you and just you alone

    in your own simple world, with roads all your own
    you fail to think, and leave the signal alone


    hard-to-reach places
    1.07 Mbs, 2.40 Mins

    (instrumental, bass motif mercilessly stolen from the unmatchable 11 hour limit - where's the album? quick!)


    --______________
    another day
    1.31 Mbs, 3.17 Mins

    to work we go off, and on with the show
    what other way is, when that's all we know?
    traffic's all hectic, and the air's gone septic
    and everyone's a critic or some dirty skeptic

    while the radio's cold with advertising
    and breakfast seems less appetizing
    when ours is more about us and less about you
    when the gold diggers and campers are all through

    we got the message, you've said all you can
    and it really doesn't matter what we say
    you're driving SUVs because you can
    just another day in the USA

    this talk of coming together and working it through
    quite frankly this important issue doesn't suit you
    and yet we're constrained by what you do
    and what it is you would have us believe to be true

    we got the message, you've said all you can
    and it really doesn't matter what we say
    you're driving SUVs because you can
    cause its just another day in the USA

    well, we're getting there, half century of discussion
    but no gain on those dreaded repercussions
    but take heart and let me finish this rant
    the only way you won't, is if you damn well can't

    we got the message, you've said all you can
    and it really doesn't matter what we say
    you're driving SUVs because you can
    just another sheep in the USA


    --______________
    your house
    0.82 Mbs, 1.59 Mins
    (Music and Lyrics by Steel Pulse, rev. lyrics inaccurately percieved by schmee)


    your love, is right for i
    realised that so much, when i first met you
    that was some time ago, but then i knew this
    resist, no, no, no,
    oh yes, right from the start
    oh no, no, no, could never part
    oh i, hear from the part - yes
    i wanna live in your house
    i wanna live in your house
    i wanna live in your house, your house
    wanna live in your house

    you say, dry your, nose
    wipe that teardrop from your, eye
    was in a little situation
    and with a solution
    whats the revelation to a triumphant call
    say spap spa baba ba bap
    i wanna live in your house, i wanna live in
    i wanna live in your house

    ( --= oh i know ye
    too much for what some say
    cause at the close of the day
    they'll be so far away
    but then i know what this voice said
    cause at the closing of the oh
    yes i know what this voice said
    you'll be there, you'll be there
    it's with you
    that brings the flag above our head
    once when i was
    once when i was
    in a situation
    and with a solution... =-- )

    --______________
    engage
    1 Mbs, 2.29 Mins

    democracy set the stage
    republics turn the page
    but the crowds all still rage
    and no one likes to engage

    we shout across the aisle
    we sigh and turn the dial
    we know they're in denial
    but we never have the trial

    special men make the calls
    respect decorates the halls
    just throwin ****, and ignoring what falls
    noone's got the balls

    special men make the calls
    respect decorates the halls
    just throwin ****, and ignoring what falls
    but not a one's got the balls

    we finally have the debate
    cept the one i nominate
    and we see them demonstrate
    all the illusions we create

    democracy sets the stage
    but republics turn the page
    and the crowds all still rage
    so why don't we engage?


    --______________
    all our tomorrow
    0.72 Mbs, 1.44 Mins

    nothing moved, all was down
    not a virtual, single sound
    the people mill about, all around
    while the action figures, all abound

    we went walking thru the park
    nothing of interest found
    there was all our tommorrow
    sitting down on the ground

    nothing moved, all was down
    not a virtual, single sound
    the people mill about, all around
    while the action figures, all abound

    we went walking thru the park
    nothing of interest found
    there was all our tommorrow
    sitting down on the ground

    the owners don't won't own up
    and the ****ing freaks, all hound
    standing on the family crest
    protecting their own mound

    we went walking thru the park
    nothing of interest found
    there was all our tommorrow
    sitting down on the ground


    --______________
    peaking
    0.6 Mbs, 1.26 Mins

    (instrumental)


    --______________
    afro-keef
    1.41 Mbs, 3.35 Mins

    (instrumental)


    --______________
    our thang
    0.84 Mbs, 2.02 Mins

    (reprise)

    --______________
    thanks fer listening.



    ** = subject to change

    musolotics artwork


    thanks fer listening - as always, comments greatly encouraged and appreciated, from great to the small, positive to negative, come one, welcome all, and let's all have a ball.

    --(oh yeah... copyright 2002 schmee)--
     
  8. Yogi Bear

    Yogi Bear Supporting Member

    Aug 14, 2000
    Colorado
    Musically it sounds cool. Lyrically, the song may not go over big with some audiences. Not too many bands can successfully pull off political sentimant / commentary in their music.
     
  9. deepbob

    deepbob

    Oct 3, 2001
    left field
    hey thanks. seriously that's so cool.

    i have no desire to perform, i'm basically trying to produce music that works well in situations of high intoxication or for background/soundtrack music for video. but i don't see "hey george" hitting rush limbaugh or MTV anytime soon =)

    i am trying to work in video (coming from 2d design), so i'm making MTV-style videos of these tunes eventually - with the express intent of being a form of 'guerrilla' media, or more precisely, engage in meme-warfare on behalf of various groups i feel under represented in the ocean of corproate tunage out there.

    i'm a big fan of the grateful dead sense of value, and am more focused on turning out creativity, not single songs that i sit on for years and hope to collect royalties off of.

    so i want this stuff to all be public domain eventually. i've already published some of the instrumentals over the net to game developers for free useage all they'd like to.

    the whole thing is one massive project to get a demo reel going. but i am really digging the ability the digital workstation provides to create such a diverse set of sounds and riding the intuition for all it's worth, and getting close to frogetting about the video and just focusing on the audio.

    been playing musical isntruments for decdes, but i started about a year ago as a poet, and realised no one could "feel" the meter behind what i was writing, so i decided to set it all to music and accidentally taught myself how to improve bass in the process =P woops.

    from there, it's just been intuitive magic and the funnest thing i've ever done in my life.

    so thanks =) i'm doing what i think i am. and that's the hardest part to be sure of, ya know?

    "self-awareness is the key to your upheival from mediocrity"

    sorry for the novel, but i think out loud (brainstorming roxxors dood!) and type 120 wpm.
     
  10. Yogi Bear

    Yogi Bear Supporting Member

    Aug 14, 2000
    Colorado
    Right on. If your diggin' it then that's all that matters.