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Took a field trip to Guitar Center today, studying what basses I like.

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Gabu, Oct 15, 2001.


  1. Gabu

    Gabu

    Jan 2, 2001
    Lake Elsinore, CA
    I did not buy anything yet. But I had a lot of fun. I played two MIM Jazz 5s, a used G&L 2500 series 5, an Ibanez 6, and a Rick 4 string. I played them all through a Fender bassman 25 (because I am considering buying one of them too).

    The Fenders cost $420 and $460 for the standard and deluxe respectively.

    The Ibanez was $599.

    The G&L was $799.

    The Rick was $1050.

    All of them played a lot better than any of my basses at home. I found songs that I worked my way through on my bass, played itself on these new instruments. I was sutably surprised.

    I have decided that I still am far enough away from getting a 6 that I will concentrate on the 5s for now.

    Regarding active vs passive; I noticed that the bassman 25 farted bigtime playing notes higher than G on any active bass. The exact same amp, same cord, played all the notes through the B just fine on a passive bass. That was fine with me, because in all honesty the extra knobs and switches got a bit confusing to me and I had some difficulty "dialing in" sounds that I liked. The exception to this was the G&L bass. It seemed very easy to control.

    I liked the Fender Jazz standard better than the deluxe mainly because of the easier controls. But they both sounded and played great. I think I liked the Jazz standard best of the basses I played today.

    I liked the G&L next. It was a really cool bass, with great action and sound. The three extra switches didn't throw me off. One was for switching pickups, one was for switching between active and passive and one was to set the tone "Bassy, brite and extra brite" according to the salesman.

    Next I liked the Rick. I have always wanted a Rick. This bass sounded nice and had good action. But the neck was sooo small, perhaps because I am much more accustomed to playing 5s now... It was hard to get over. This was also the most expensive bass and I don't think even if it was a 5er I would like it as much as the Fenders.

    The last was the Ibanez... It was the only 6 I played... It was an active bass so I had to play it on the bassman 100. It was okay sounding. It had a really, really thin neck. It was definately a fast action bass. I am really having a hard time putting my finger on what I didn't like about this one. The sound wa okay... It had a lot of controls, as many as the Jazz deluxe. It was a bit of a pain to find sounds that I liked.

    I wanted to try some Yamahas but I had to take off... I was two hours late coming home from band practice today! *doh*

    In the next few days I want to try the American Jazz basses. I am not going to mess with the Precisions. I will also check other basses in the $1000 +/- range. Christmas is coming!! :D
     
  2. Gabu

    Gabu

    Jan 2, 2001
    Lake Elsinore, CA
    The salesman was really cool. Answered a truckload of questions and no hard sell crap. He even suggested that part of the problem that I am having with my existing basses may just be that they need a good setup done on them. I came out of there feeling like he was at interested in helping me, as much as selling to me, which was way cool.
     
  3. barroso

    barroso

    Aug 16, 2000
    Italia
    it's really good when in the market for a new bass. rading your report, here are my comments:
    the fender bassman 25 is a great amp. i wanted one but here it costs really much. ended buying an EKO made in korea but quite good and half the price. it's strange what you say, i tried the bassman with a czech spector equipped with emg and the little amp had no problem in terms of sound.
    going back to basses i higly suggest to give a try to the precision too. that's a great bass. only two controls buy a lot of sound in! i love mine, it's black with black pickguard and maple fingerboard. i agree with what you said about basses with a lot of knobs, i prefer passive basses if i want more tonal shaping i add a outboard preamp. when palying a bass i want to hear how the bass sounds in passive mode, only this way i can judge woods and how the bass is made. i like active basses too, but honestly i can say that passive ones fit my style much better.
     
  4. *Plug*
    You should try an Ibanez BTB-1005, chances are you won't be disapointed.
     
  5. SuperDuck

    SuperDuck

    Sep 26, 2000
    Wisconsin
    I think the reason the active basses distorted is because their output is a lot higher than passive. I'm not familiar with the Bassman, but if there is a Hi or Lo input, actives should go in the Lo; passives in the Hi. Otherwise, their might be a pad switch that you can change. Or not. I don't know.

    What did you think about the B on the Jazz 5er? I've always wanted to try one but never had the chance. I've heard they were less than stellar.
     
  6. DB5

    DB5

    Jul 3, 2001
    Austin Texas
    Gabu

    The Bassman 25 is a great practice amp IMO
    Next time plug an active bass in the 2nd channel
    Passive bass in channel 1

    Also if your in the market for a 5 string around a grand, Try the Peavey Cirrus 5 for the money its hard to beat. Good Luck
     
  7. brianrost

    brianrost Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 26, 2000
    Boston, Taxachusetts
    The sales guy was close. The first is a pickup selector (3 positions) the next is series/parallel (2 positions) and the last is passive, active and active with treble boost.
     
  8. john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member Administrator

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    hey gabu

    have you tried the 5 string ric?

    also, did you get a chance to try the 5 string groove tools? i've not heard much about them, and am curious as to how well the mighty mite pickups handle the low B.
     
  9. I have to echo what DB5 said... most amps (with exception of practice amps) usually have 2 plug ins, one is usually a High Gain (for passive basses) and the other is a Low Gain ( for active basses)... so try putting it in the other plug next time. Also the 5 String Groove Tools are really nice, I've played them and thought they were really good (better than my Am Std Fender Jazz V IMO)
     
  10. If you're looking at Fenders, the only two I would say are the Roscoe Beck and the Deluxe Precision V. The Precision V has the perfect neck. The Roscoe is just a versatility monster.

    And I don't like Fender!
     
  11. What is this "bump" thing I keep seeing?
     
  12. Gabu

    Gabu

    Jan 2, 2001
    Lake Elsinore, CA
    The bassman's pre gain was lowered to 25% ... I do not believe it had a sepperate jack for actives.

    I did not yet try the Rick 5, but I shall do so in GC part 2, the Wrath of Gabu. Also, I completely forgot about the Conklins... I will check them as well. Hopefully I will have more time tonight. :D

    The Ibanez that I tried was one of the nice mid-ranged ones. It was active and had switches, belts pullies and any kind of bell or whistle you could want... It confused the heck out of me. I have to admit that I am not gung ho to try more, but I probably should.

    I didn't see any Peaveys believe it or not... Also, the yamahas must have been hidden in a corner too.

    More coming soon to a theater near you!
     
  13. TonyS

    TonyS

    Dec 13, 1999
    USA
    *Bump*

    "Shorthand" for saying, keep this thread at the top of the page.
     
  14. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Staff Member Supporting Member

    Gabu, unfortunately GC does not carry Peavey, mainly because Peavey will not give them a premium on dealer cost for selling a certain amount of product the way that Fender, Gibson and a lot of the other manufacturers do.

    Have fun trying out basses, if you get the chance to play a Cirrus 5, it may be the one you like best.
     
  15. grooveguru

    grooveguru

    Sep 14, 2000
    Central PA
    Gabu:

    Why do you insist on not answering fellow TBers when they ask you about "bump"? Several of us have asked you. Is it some little secret here?
     
  16. melvin

    melvin

    Apr 28, 2001
    Remember that thing with Hi-End? Well Gabu and a few others were "bumping" all the older threads so people would stop replying to Hi-Ends racist named threads.
     
  17. malthumb

    malthumb

    Mar 25, 2001
    The Motor City
    If this is true, then Gabu gets my vote for TB Citizen of the Year :) :) :)

    Peace,

    James
     
  18. Gabu

    Gabu

    Jan 2, 2001
    Lake Elsinore, CA
    In Gabu-ese that means:

    Bump.

    It's short for bumperanumalthunktonium.

    Way back in the old days, (like the 80s dude!), there used to be many bumps.

    But now, sadly, they are an endangered species. They have long been harvested for their abilities to move threads up to the top of the list.

    Despite laws, diligent moderators and a generally concerned and well meaning public... they continue to be used as if they grew on trees.

    :(

    It's a sad world.
     
  19. Gabu

    Gabu

    Jan 2, 2001
    Lake Elsinore, CA
    Thanks very much! But it was a group effort. I think TB is full of stellar citizens. :)