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Trace Elliot ELF

Discussion in 'Amps, Mics & Pickups [DB]' started by mav, Jun 13, 2017.


  1. mav

    mav

    Jun 10, 2003
    Just wondering if this will work with upright piezo direct into the amp.
    • Ultra-high preamp input impedance (>10meg ohms) for maximum sensitivity when using passive pickups
     
  2. 10 MegOhms is high enough for any piezo type pickup (maybe except homemade ones from thin piezo foil that might need 22MegOhms).
     
  3. Yeah, that impendance should work with pickup's. Funny that you can carry it in your jeans's backpocket.
    Hope they'll make a 'twelf' with more power.. 200W won't cut it most of the time (at our gigs anyway).
     
  4. Steve Boisen

    Steve Boisen Your first second choice™ Supporting Member

    Dec 3, 2003
    Tampa Bay, FL
    The new compact cabinets they've designed to go with this head look good too. This could be a new reasonably priced option for double bass. I hope some of my local stores start to carry it.

    - Steve
     
  5. Matt Ides

    Matt Ides

    May 12, 2004
    Minneapolis, MN
    Another 2x8 cab :)
     
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  6. Ric Vice

    Ric Vice Supporting Member

    Jul 2, 2005
    Olivette, Missouri
    I gigged with a 100 watt Walter Woods MI-100-8. That amp produced @ 150 watts into 4 ohms. It sounded great but was only just powerful enough for jazz trios. The Elf looks to be good for small clubs, coffee houses, and drummerless trios. I do many gigs like that.

    Ric
     
  7. Steve Boisen

    Steve Boisen Your first second choice™ Supporting Member

    Dec 3, 2003
    Tampa Bay, FL
    I used a Gallien-Krueger MB105S for years and now use a Markacoustic AC 101. Both of these are 150 watts and I never felt the need for more wattage. I'm not interested in playing double bass at really high volumes. If I need more amplification than my amp can supply then I'll send a line to the PA.

    - Steve
     
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  8. For most situations this amp would suffice, wattage-like. Generaly speaking, we never want a loud amp on stage due to feedback issues.
    I prefer to run it into a PA, but found myself in a situation without a PA a couple of times. Our bands PA is not suitable to amplify bass.. so i upscaled in watts.

    Are there any sound samples of double bass with the Elf yet? I'm curious about the tone and if the amp doesn't color the sound with a Trace -sauce..

    Is Elf giving anybody GAS yet?
     

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  9. Steve Boisen

    Steve Boisen Your first second choice™ Supporting Member

    Dec 3, 2003
    Tampa Bay, FL
    I have only heard it demoed with electric bass. One thing that's disappointing about this amp is that there is built-in compression that can't be defeated. The higher you turn the gain knob, the more compression is applied. That's an effect I generally don't like on double bass. Still, if a local store carries this amp I'll probably bring my double bass in to give it a try.

    - Steve
     
  10. I recall reading on this forum, that adding compression to a double bass signal, is prone for feedback.. so that wouldn't be a good thing.
    I don't have experience on this, never use compression.
     
  11. Steve Boisen

    Steve Boisen Your first second choice™ Supporting Member

    Dec 3, 2003
    Tampa Bay, FL
    Whenever I've had compression on my double bass it tended to make it sound more like an electric.

    - Steve
     
  12. Ric Vice

    Ric Vice Supporting Member

    Jul 2, 2005
    Olivette, Missouri
    The only limiter I've ever liked was the one on the GK200MB. It sounded very musical to my ears and helped keep the amp from distorting. It also had a compressor and a chorus.

    Ric
     
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  13. svtb15

    svtb15 Banned

    Mar 22, 2004
    Austin,TX - McKinney,TX - NY,NY, - Nashville,TN
    I play it all. Whatever works for the gig. Q+
    Anyone do an AB between an ELF and GK MB200?
     
  14. tombowlus

    tombowlus If it sounds good, it is good Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2003
    North central Ohio
    Editor-in-Chief, Bass Gear Magazine
    Nothing extensive (yet), but I have played them both back-to-back at band practice. The overall output from each is quite similar. The MB200 sounds like a GK, and the ELF is a bit more mid-forward, warm and round (though not overly so - just in comparison to the slightly scooped, very clear/clean GK tone).
     
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  15. bassfran

    bassfran

    Mar 1, 2012
    Chicago
    Endorsing artist: Lakland basses
    Have you tried the ELF with a DB, or just a slab?
     
  16. tombowlus

    tombowlus If it sounds good, it is good Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2003
    North central Ohio
    Editor-in-Chief, Bass Gear Magazine
    No DB yet.
     
  17. i plug my old german plywood's K&K Bass Max directly into the ELF, no preamp, which i have running into a Carvin 115MBE. it's a 4 ohm 1x15 cab with no tweeter, so it gets the full 200 watts and it sounds AWESOME. love this rig. no feedback issues and its super portable. i can put the ELF in the gig bag pocket and carry the Carvin in one hand. my upright gigs are all ONE TRIP now!
     
  18. unbrokenchain

    unbrokenchain Supporting Member

    Jun 8, 2011
    Black Mountain, NC
    Dug this thread up just to report... clumsy me was trying to do too much at once in packing up after a gig and managed to drop the ELF on the sidewalk.. (I was holding it under my armpit and carrying cab, cable bags, and mic stand in my hands). It hit hard and bounced.. plugged it in, works just fine, took a tiny ding on the corner but nbd.

    Moral of the story? Tough little amp but don't take the portability for granted :laugh:
     
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  19. kerrycares

    kerrycares Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 17, 2006
    DAC5764A-FA92-4B6B-96D3-EEC217AA8CE6. I wanted to love the Elf with my bass, but the compressor wouldn’t let me!
     
  20. Ric Vice

    Ric Vice Supporting Member

    Jul 2, 2005
    Olivette, Missouri
    I did that once with Walter Woods MI-400-8, fortunately Walter extended the sides out in to protect all the control surfaces.

    I wish other amps would do this. The chassis is aluminum which naturally wicks off heat

    and there massive cooling fins on the rear of the amp.

    Walter Woods MI 400-8 small.
     
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