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Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by ndjx, Sep 1, 2002.
Can anyone clarify this or are they really moving to the US?
The rumour has it that Gibson have decided to moive all of Trace Elliot's manufacturing to the US somewhere. All UK manufacturing has been shut down!
Only time will tell if the brand is gone for good - although based on Gibson's track record, time will tell if the brand can live up to it's name when they do start up again!
Such a shame!
oh well, at least we got ashdown out of it, same company really isn't it
If it does move to the US, does this mean prices will be cheaper? I had an oppurtunity to play an AH150 and Trace 4x10 last weekend and I must say they were awesome.
Yes we got Ashdown out of it. But they're a big improvement over TE. Having just bought an Ashdown combo I'm so impressed that I'm selling my Trace gear and buying Ashdown.
I won't miss those wardrobe size cabinets and over complicated pre-amps that you can't get a decent sound out of.
I expect Ashdown will soon be bought up and shut down some American corporation.
Musician's Friend bought up all the final UK Trace Elliot stock and has been blowing it out at some pretty unbelievable prices. I haven't been to the site for awhile so there might not be anything left.
I agree - I hated them and also the fact that a lot of rehearsal spaces in the UK have them as bass amps - I would prefer a Peavey! Hopefully they will die out completely and I will never have to use one again!!
Can't say I share your feelings on this one - but I guess we can agree to disagree!
I've found a few places using Peavey, and to be honest they were OK, nothing more! I did consider once buying a TNT, but that was short lived - it didn't compare to the Trace (as far as I was concerned!)
???? Never noticed the cabs as being significantly bigger than most other offerings!!! Over complicated pre-amp???? What you mean gain ,EG on/off, pre-shape on or off, and a few sliders????
Most TV remotes are more complicated than that!
And as for decent sounds - Spector straight in with the amp set flat works great for me, maybe you were trying too hard!
I've always been happy with my Trace Amps. Only ever had one problem and it was fixed quick sharp.
The cabs were a tad on the humungus side, but thats just because i'm an old scrote, on the plus side, if it wasn't for lugging various Trace cabs around over the years I wouldn't have grown up to be big and ugly .
Now i've got some nice Ashdown mini cabs that fit nicely on my zimmer and there not carpet covered. I _HATE_ carpet covering on amps and cabs, it gets absolutely minging with pub reek and sticky 'orrible drummer secretions when they paw at the shiny lights.
I agree with Johnny Boom Boom, plug the plank in, crank it up and the sound is chankin', only real problem I ever had with a sound was when we played this place that must have been a nuclear bunker in a past life, not a soft surface anywhere, (You couldn't have EQ'd out the sound problems with a 50 band EQ never mind 12) and the PA guy believed in maximum volume...let's just say i'm glad I had my earplugs with me.
Well a Precision with the controls flat always sounded ***** to me, and no amount of eq adjustment could make it better. I always ended up using the pre-shape and in two years of owning the amp that was the only control on the preamp that I ever used. I paid hundreds of pounds for a load of bells and whistles that were totally redundant.
IMHO I don't believe in graphic equalisers on any kind of audio equipment, whether it's a hi-fi amp or a bass amp. It's just a cop out by the manfacturer. It saves them the trouble of designing a usable tone shaping section. Just stick a graphic on it. When you start trying to boost or cut individual frequencies in narrow bands you just end up ******* the sound of a good instrument.
I don't doubt that a lot of big names (and smaller names) think they're the dogs, but TE didn't do it for me and I've seen similar opinions expressed in these posts
The 1518 that I owned briefly was the biggest heaviest 15 that I've ever owned. I stupidly traded in a Peavey BW for it because I believed the TE hype and I regretted it the first time I used it in a band situation.
I just bought an Ashdown and it's easy to get half a dozen different usable sounds with minimal knob twiddling.
And anyway Mr BoomBoom???? What's got up your arse????
All I did was express an opinion based on my own experience - the same opinion, incidentally, as Bruce Lindfield - and you seem to be suggesting that DUH I must be really thick.
In case you hadn't noticed, that is what this forum is for.
Am I not entitled to an opinion just because you haven't seen me post on here before?
EDIT: Moderator - language
FWIW the Trace Elliot V-4, V-8, and V-6's are three of the four amps I lust for the most (the other being a vintage Ampeg SVT).
You don't have to agree... I just thought I'd let you know how I feel.
Trace V-Type. Now those I will miss. Unfortunately my pockets were never deep enough.
BTW Johnny, if we are talking about small combos here, check out Warwick Sweet 15. It's awesome for a 150w/1x15 of that price!
I have a Peavey footswitch.
Jesus, Andy lighten up. Maybe you didn't see the at the end of Mr.BoomBoom's statement. You know, nudge nudge, wink wink.
FWIW I always liked what I heard from various Trace gear I ran across, but the only piece I own is the 7 band EQ pedal with the 2 pre-shape buttons. Its great for certain casinos where they don't allow amps and everything is run direct in.
Well, I'd originally posted a response, but now I've thought about it, I've changed it to this! Hopefully it'll help this blow over!
My post wasn't meant ot be a personal attack - hence the smiley! I apologise if I offended you! I guess we got off on the wrong foot! Hopefully we can start again!
My post was my opinion on some of your comments nothing more. Like I said in my reply to Bruce - let's agree to disagree!
Thanks PB - you understood my post for what it was intended!
I try not to read too much into anything (.....or maybe I just don't read too much......... )
Well of course the thing about the sound of amps is that it is all down to personal preference and it often makes me laugh the amount of talking and debating in the amps section when all that matters is how it sound to you!
I just want an amp that faithfully repoduces the sound of my bass - TE never does that IMO - it has its own coloured sound which is recognisable and I don't like it!! Peavey are OK in that they are not trying so hard.
BUt I know that with my Eden set to flat through EA cabs I will get as close as possible to how my bass sounds and that's nothing like TE!!
And presumably everybody buys a bass because they like how it sounds, so why buy amplification that changes that - I can only think you aren't happy with the sound of your bass and should buy another one!