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Trade Help!!! Zon, G&L, Hanewinkel?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by rickreyn, Oct 12, 2001.


  1. rickreyn

    rickreyn

    Jun 16, 2000
    Lutz, Florida
    Got offers to trade for my Musicman Stingray 5: a Zon Sonus 5/1 Fretless, a G&L L2500 (Namm model) and a Hanewinkel Gripen Classic. Any thoughts or advice?

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  2. Nino Valenti

    Nino Valenti Commercial User

    Feb 2, 2001
    Staten Island NYC
    Builder: Valenti Basses
    I'm assuming it's a trade for your Ray 5 for one of those basses. ;)

    I have experiences only w/G&L's & I personally think thay're much better than a Ray 5, but that totally IMO. The G&L that's pictures is a G&L L-2500 Custom. It had an alder body & a maple top w/binding & was more expensive than a normal L-2500. My catalouge says that is has no countour on the front & the ones I played were like that & took a little getting used to. The picture you included looks like it has a countour, but it might just be a reflection.

    Play all 3. See which one you like best out of the 3. THEN do a major A/B to your Ray 5. If you don't like that one better than your Ray 5, keep the Ray.

    Good luck.
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  3. Gard

    Gard Commercial User

    Mar 31, 2000
    Greensboro, NC, USA
    General Manager, Roscoe Guitars
    Rick -

    You just bought that Stingray5...FROM ME!!! :p ;)

    Nino's advice is good, if it's doable. I would lean towards the Zon (who me, no I'm not prejudiced ;) ) if you can't play all 3, but they're all great basses, in my experience.
     
  4. rickreyn

    rickreyn

    Jun 16, 2000
    Lutz, Florida
    Bass Central exists because of people like me! There's a strong chance I'll keep the MM. However, I see many TB guys with Zons.
     
  5. barroso

    barroso

    Aug 16, 2000
    Italia
    that G&L is pure beauty!! if it sound as good as it looks....
     
  6. Gard

    Gard Commercial User

    Mar 31, 2000
    Greensboro, NC, USA
    General Manager, Roscoe Guitars
    No offense taken Rick!! :D

    ..I was just pickin' on ya ;)

    I think you'd dig the Zon, I know I LOVE mine! The fretless Z's are amazing basses, to say the least.
     
  7. rickreyn

    rickreyn

    Jun 16, 2000
    Lutz, Florida
    Wonder what the humidity is like up there.

    On the G&L, I have consulted with my immediate family, all six of them, and all of them are bothered by the binding and color. However, G&L put this piece on display!
     
  8. seamus

    seamus

    Feb 8, 2001
    Jersey
    Tough choice, they all would be nice. I don't play fretless for anything, so I'd have to vote G&L. Plus, as Nino mentioned, that's a nice custom L-2500.
     
  9. Gard

    Gard Commercial User

    Mar 31, 2000
    Greensboro, NC, USA
    General Manager, Roscoe Guitars
    That's one of the beauties of Zon, it doesn't matter what the humidity and temperature are like, it's a graphite neck, totally unaffected by these things. Personally, I think the G&L is a nice looking bass, but you gotta go with your taste.
     
  10. Angus

    Angus Supporting Member

    Apr 16, 2000
    Palo Alto, CA
    Definitely the Zon. But I prefer fretless. :)

    If you want ANOTHER bass with speed bum...frets, then you can't go wrong with a G&L. Great basses, and that one especially looks beautiful. However, I've never played a Hanewinkle, so I'm just going by what I know.

    But, can't go wrong with a fretless Zon! If you look, you can find one's with nice tops and two pickups for about $1300 used pretty easily.
     
  11. Zon makes a great fretless. Of the three mentioned, if I wanted a fretless it would be an easy choice.

    Jeff
     
  12. Definitely G&L !!!!

    That's my prejudice!!! Pure Prejudice!!!....:D

    Well actually I'm sure that all of them are great...the only experience I have is on G&L. YOU have to play it yourself.

    Even the G&L alone could be different from one to the other(the same G&L model). So it's hard to generalise them.

    However, generally speaking, my experience with G&L has been sweet. Especially with a finish like that!!!!! Man!!! I can't resist that bass!!!!!
     
  13. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Commercial User

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    Boom Bass Cabinets, DR strings
    Any of the three do what they do very well.

    Hanewinckels are some of the nicest playing basses out there but I don't recall them having a really identifiable sound. Personally I didn't like the Gripen body style (that's my little problem;))

    The G&L is based on an L2000, one of my favorite fours. The only issue I "might" have is string spacing, the 2500's tend to be tight.

    The Zon is a Zon fretless... IMO, Joe's forte. I play my two humbucker Zon with the bridge soloed maybe 85% of the time so the single pickup wouldn't be that big a deal.

    vs. a 'Ray I'd probably go with the Zon... if I wanted a fretless. If the Hannie was a different body style or the G&L had a wide neck it would be a toss up.
     
  14. embellisher

    embellisher Holy Ghost filled Bass Player Staff Member Supporting Member

    rick, looks like you've got some serious thinking to do.

    I love my Zon Sonus Custom fretless 5, but since I already have a Zon fretless, I would probably get that beautiful G&L, although I am concerned about the narrow string spacing, like Brad. It may not be a problem for you.

    Of course, since you don't own a Zon fretless, I think that you should trade the 'Ray for the Zon.:) I think that everyone should have a Zon fretless 5. I've never had the pleasure of playing a fretless F Bass, Sadowsky or Fodera, but my Zon is the best fretless that I have ever played.

    As far as Hanewinkel goes, unfortunately I have no experience with them. They have a great reputation, and the ones with fancy tops are real eye candy, but I've never seen one in person.
     
  15. Scott Cutrer

    Scott Cutrer Guest

    Aug 21, 2000
    Richmond, VA
    G&L man, that is a great bass! Vert versatile, a player's bass.
     
  16. frederic b. hodshon

    frederic b. hodshon Supporting Member

    May 10, 2000
    Lake Forest, CA
    None.
    that's the nicest G&L i've ever seen.

    i like the binding design....pretty pretty pretty.

    but...all yous guys know me....

    zon fretlesses all the way.

    everything else is just a wish.

    fred
     
  17. Luis Fabara

    Luis Fabara

    Aug 13, 2000
    Ecuador (South America)
    Audio Pro - Ecuador
  18. malthumb

    malthumb

    Mar 25, 2001
    The Motor City
    I've owned and played Music Man and I own a Hanewinckel. I've only played two Zons in a store and never played a G&L.

    My leaning based on the choices you've laid out would be towards keeping the Music Man or trading for the Zon.

    As much as I enjoy my Hanewinckel, I stop short of recommending this one, because I'm doing a spec to spec, price to price comparison of the Classic to your Music Man. The Hanewinckel Classic in your picture doesn't appear to have any options on it (parallel / series switch, EQ upgrade) so it retails for about $1,975. Quite a bit less than the Stingray, which is more of a known quantity and will do better for you in the event you need to sell it. The Zon you could probably get all your money out if you decided you didn't like it. If the Hanewinckel was an Artist or Pro Series, I'd suggest you jump at it, but the one you have pictured isn't.

    I like my Hanewinckel Artist better than I did my Ken Smith Burner, my Music Man Sabre, or my Alembic Spoiler, but not quite on the level with my Alembic Series I and Series II basses.

    Hope I've helped.

    Peace,

    James
     
  19. rickreyn

    rickreyn

    Jun 16, 2000
    Lutz, Florida
    I appreciate all the advice. Now, here's the end of the story. The G&L is off the trading block. It's owner got serious second thoughts once he began to again appreciate what he had. I agree with malthumb on the Hanewinkel. The MM may be a "one trick" pony, but that's quite a trick! Plus, I like the black/black/maple color combo that I have. Finally, my fear with the Zon is an inability to spend the necessary time to perfect my fretless playing. Alas, I may be back at square one, with the MM, and my newly acquired Cirrus. My thanks to all TB bottom dwellers for their cogent and timely advice!