Traynor YBA200 To good to be ture ???

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by bassgruvn, Mar 16, 2006.

  1. Is it just me, or do these seem cheap (cost wise) for what you are getting ?? :eek:
    I mean you can buy on of these for $600.00 + shipping
    Are they junk ??
    I gotta know :smug:
  2. tombowlus

    tombowlus If it sounds good, it is good Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2003
    North central Ohio
    Editor-in-Chief, Bass Gear Magazine
    Not at all. I am very impressed with this head, and I consider it to be a killer all-tube head for the money. It is not as full sounding as some, but it is very articulate, and you can dial in a good range of nice growl and overdrive. Quite honestly, I think it is a smoking head for the price.

  3. cheezewiz


    Mar 27, 2002
  4. ibz


    Apr 14, 2005
    Columbus, OH
    The tubes in them are nothing to write home to mom about, but really they do sound good, and the pricepoint is great.
  5. Plain Old Me

    Plain Old Me

    Dec 14, 2004
    Once you replace the tubes, you can get a 200 to sound kinda like an SVT with a bit less volume. It gets great overdrive. A bit cab sensitive though...
  6. bucephylus

    bucephylus Supporting Member Commercial User

    Aug 18, 2002
    General Manager TecPadz LLC
    Have you tried this head with the NV cabs?
  7. Great question, as I use a NV425 myself.
  8. tombowlus

    tombowlus If it sounds good, it is good Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2003
    North central Ohio
    Editor-in-Chief, Bass Gear Magazine
    Definitely! My comments above are based upon trying it through the NV215, NV610 and Sadowsky 4x10. Again, I am very impressed. The Sovteks in mine seemed to sound pretty good in this unit. What tubes are y'all throwing in these amps?

  9. Blues Cat

    Blues Cat Supporting Member

    May 28, 2005
    Katy, Tx
    How would you compare it to the Sadowsky 200 tube head Tombowlos? I know the Sadowsky's better.

    Do you get the the same smooth over drive or do you find the YBA200 is either clean or abruptely dirty after clipping?

    I've been gasing for a YBA200.
    Would love the SA200 but since all my gigs lately are briefcase gigs it's hard to justify.
  10. bucephylus

    bucephylus Supporting Member Commercial User

    Aug 18, 2002
    General Manager TecPadz LLC
    Thanks a lot Tom! This head sounds like an amazing deal. I may have to check one out.
  11. tombowlus

    tombowlus If it sounds good, it is good Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 3, 2003
    North central Ohio
    Editor-in-Chief, Bass Gear Magazine
    Well, sure, the SA200 blows it away, but it should. BUT, the little Traynor made its case for being a great bang for the buck while being directly compared to the SA200. In fact, when we first fired it up, everyone went 'whoa!' and was very impressed. It was only after switching to the SA200 that we started saying how it is not as full (or as smooth) sounding, but nevertheless, even after the direct A/B comparison, we all felt that it was a killer amp, and that it must have been expertly retubed by Steve Azola (who I acquired the YBA200 from). It turns out that those were the stock tubes. :eek:

    The overdriven tones between the SA200 and YBA200 are extremely different. The Traynor is not really smooth, but it does offer a range of overdriven tones (you have a decent amount of the gain knob available for overdrive - it's not an abrupt on/off). The tone is more crisp and biting (for a tube head), but still pleasant, I thought. It's not a tone that's going to please everyone, and in fact, it's a bit unique, but I would still place it soundly in the 'good' category. It is a more dramatic overdrive/distortion than that from the Sadowsky, and again, the SA200 has much more heft, weight, warmth (but with great clarity), and overall just really pulls away, but given the $2,000+ difference in the MSRP, I find the Traynor very impressive.

  12. Thanx for the info all :) I need to replace my V4BH head. Just not enough power, starts to distort way to quickly for me.
  13. MikeyB


    Aug 16, 2006
    Sykesville, MD
    Tombowlus - can you elaborate a little on when you say the overdrive of the YBA200 is a little more "crisp & biting"?

    I'm wondering if my Ric and Jazz through this amp (and perhaps an NV610:eek: ) will give a Geddy-esque overdrive.


  14. gfab333


    Mar 22, 2000
    Honolulu, Hawaii
    I've played through this head a couple of times. More recently, a friend loaned me his head and I used it on a 4 hour gig with my Accugroove cabs. Since it was a moderately loud blues gig, I was able to run the head with a lot of gain and push it. It's a great head for the money. Ampeg buffs may not like this, but a good number of users call it the mini-SVT. The resonance control work just as advertised - adjusts the speaker damping. Overall, it's got nice warmth, drive, and growl.

  15. From my experience with the head I would say yes. The main culprit to the "harshness" of the amp's sound are the Sovtek preamp tubes. Swap them out for some JJs and it becomes much smoother. The Power tubes in the YBA200 are pretty good and you really don not need to replace them, which will save about $200. Many have tried using lower gain pre amp tubes in the YBA200, including me, with 12at7s, 5751s and 12ay7s. I found it gets a little more of a vintage tone but I prefered the dynamics of the 12ax7.

    Overall it is a great head especially for the money, but you do need the right cab so you have to experiment. My favorite cab with this head was the Ampeg 412.
  16. msquared


    Sep 19, 2004
    Kansas City
    There are a couple threads on here which deal specifically with the hows and whys of YBA200 tube swapping. IIRC the general consensus was that the stock tubes are ideal if you're looking for a scooped overdrive sound, but for anything else it's a great idea to do a preamp tube swap.

    I'm personally really interested in the idea of running a tube preamp out to the power stage of this amp and bypassing the built in preamp entirely. Anyone tried it?
  17. anderbass


    Dec 20, 2005
    Phoenix. Az.
    How much does this head weigh?
  18. The 0x

    The 0x

    Aug 24, 2003
    Timonium, MD
    41 lbs.
  19. I love mine!! It's the first all tube amp I've had much experience with and I don't think I'll ever go back to SS. I really cranked it for the first time at a gig on Saturday night and it has just the growl I've always been looking for. I'd be interested in trying the pre-amp tube swap some time soon. I'll report back in one of the YBA200 threads when I do. Joe
  20. takeout

    takeout Supporting Member

    Dec 27, 2002
    Kansas City area
    I can't speak for the NV610, but since I have every other piece of gear you mentioned (Jazz/Ric/YBA200), I can unequivocally say that you can get your Geddy on with this amp. My Ric especially loves this head.

    If anyone does a preamp tube shootout on these heads, post it prominently. I'm very interested to hear what people's results are.