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Triple basses?

Discussion in 'Basses [DB]' started by yawnsie, Nov 12, 2001.


  1. yawnsie

    yawnsie

    Apr 11, 2000
    London
    Hello, everyone. Recently, I had the mispleasure of having some muppet cosset me about his favourite hardcore punk band. (Bear with me...) He told me that the bassist in this band was a seven foot tall giant, who played a huge upright triple bass. Not the most credible of stories. Basically, I just thought I'd ask if there are actually triple basses out there roaming the earth?
     
  2. anonymous0726

    anonymous0726 Guest

    Nov 4, 2001
    I believe the 'double' part is English in origin, meaning more 'bass' than 'bass'. I think that they also call the contra-bass clarinet the double-bass clarinet.
     
  3. Hello Ray, I see that you were once a farmerdude. I agree with "non-musical environment". My parents still can't figure out why I'm so obsessed with music....back to topic....
    My teacher once told me of a bass he had seen that was 10'-11' tall, had to be played while standing on a stool and had some kind of mechanism (push button) to stop the notes. I'll have to ask him about it again. He also told me about a bass that was provided to him in Jerusalem (he use to travel without a bass). Some old guy showed up with a very old bass he was proud of and was excited to se it played but it turned out to be unplayable as it had VINE for strings.
     
  4. anonymous0726

    anonymous0726 Guest

    Nov 4, 2001
    Vine? And I thought Thomastiks were mean!

    There were a bunch of experimental beasts like that. I've seen drawings of a bass that had pedals to stop notes and guides to hold the bow lateral. In Cincinnati there was a bass at the now-defunct Bass Viol shop that someone at the Cincinnati symphony hall (I forget the name of the hall) had thrown in the trash! Luckily someone noticed and it was rescued. That bass was so huge that they disassembled it for storage. I'm not sure where that one is now. I hop eit wasn't detroyed in the (last!) fire.

    Yup -- spent some time on both a John Deere 60 and an Oliver 1370 on the clay of North/Central Ohio.
     
  5. You heard wrong, Hyamule. "Doublebass" is actually a reference to the instrument's register. The function of doubling the violoncello (literally translated as 'little bas') came later. This has discussed in other threads too.
     
  6. anonymous0726

    anonymous0726 Guest

    Nov 4, 2001
    I'll have to look it up, but I have my doubts as to that story, as the 'cello is the bass of the violin family. The Bass, its history sketchy at best, is more likely a descendant of the viol family of instruments -- the flat back, german bow, sloped shoulders, and 4ths tuning are some examples serving as evidence of genetic diversity. I'll get on that later tonight or tomorrow and let you know what I learn. Also -- the 'double' of double bass is definitely English in origin (the country), whereas the rest of the world calls it the Contrabass, the Brits have their own, funny way of talking.
     
  7. Bob Gollihur

    Bob Gollihur GollihurMusic.com

    Mar 22, 2000
    New Joisey Shore
    Big Cheese Emeritus: Gollihur Music
  8. anonymous0726

    anonymous0726 Guest

    Nov 4, 2001
    Read through the stuff, Bob. Thanks!

    It looks like I'm not too far off. Given the reading and a little logic, I'd still say that the 'double' of Double Bass is a UK oddity. English is the only language that I know of where that type of name is given to the instrument, where contrabass(e) and its various spellings is the universal name. Although the doubling of the cello line was mentioned in a few places, the contra (16') register is what seems to be the important detail. You could double the cello line on any instrument, right? The Octobass was an octave below Double Bass -- a little quick math makes Octo a mistaken prefix-- it should then have been called the SixteenoBass :)
     
  9. Regarding the origin of the bass, we've had this discussion here a few times. Check out _A New History of the Doublebass_ by Paul Brun. He provides a compelling arguement against the doublebass as we know it being in any way related to the viol (gamba) family. All previous arguements contended that because of flatbacks, sloped shoulders, etc. there must be a link. He sees it very differently and provides historical evidence to back up his claims that the doublebass is truly of the violin family.
     
  10. yawnsie

    yawnsie

    Apr 11, 2000
    London
    Interesting. So, the double in double bass refers to it's range rather than it's size. Thanks for the replies.
     
  11. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

    Hmmm.. getting very close to sarcasm here... not sure if you're just giving the DBers some fun - but I would have said that your friend was talking about the infamous prog-rock triple neck bass. I'm sure I could find a photo to give the regulars a good laugh.

    Now are you going to ask about 7/8 and full-size basses next? ;)
     
  12. yawnsie

    yawnsie

    Apr 11, 2000
    London
    Careful Bruce... you're going to get me Fuqua'd! :eek:

    At first, I thought that he was talking about a triple necked bass. But he told me that it was an upright that was especially built because the bloke in question was so tall.

    And if you can find some pics Bruce, put them up - they should be good for giving JT some GAS if nothing else. ;)
     
  13. Yea, JT has more strings than the Vancouver Symphony!
     
  14. Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member

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  15. anonymous0726

    anonymous0726 Guest

    Nov 4, 2001
    My fault -- I started the digression. Double=Contra is the point I was really trying to make.
     
  16. As Moderator, I will not permit it to be said that JT also has more gas than the Vancouver Symphony.
     
  17. Chris Fitzgerald

    Chris Fitzgerald Student of Life Staff Member Administrator

    Oct 19, 2000
    Louisville, KY

    I ain't afearda you, Higdon... Moderate THIS:

    JT HAS MORE GAS THAN THE ENTIRE VANCOUVER SYMPHONY!!!!

    How do you like me NOW?
     
  18. John, I'm so sorry...I...MWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
     
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  20. anonymous0726

    anonymous0726 Guest

    Nov 4, 2001
    NO drummer can get too far behind you when you're playing THAT axe!