Ok, when I first heard the term stoner rock, I thought it would be pretty much a modern take on Psychedelic rock, with a heavy twist. Though it's heavy, fuzzed out, and groovy... it's not really floaty/trippy. In reference to the High on Fire thread, they are a fairly popular stoner rock act, but they are described as Motorhead meets Slayer... neither trippy. Same goes for a lot of modern stoner rock, I bought Leviathan by Mastadon. Cool, heavy, fuzzed out, but not trippy. A lot of the early Psychedelic music incorperated keys, etc. I dunno, I want to find some stuff that's like, Heavy Iron Butterfly or The Zombies. Closest example I own, Monster Magnet's early stuff. Their new album is like the new breed of "Stoner" which is just classic rock. Even though it's not that heavy, a good example is "See you in hell" off of Powertrip. Keys, floaty, cool. I guess I want to hear some stoner rock with some keys... and dammit more delay on the guitar!!