Triumphator Bass - Am I being unreasonable or generous?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Volker Kirstein, Aug 13, 2019.

  1. Volker Kirstein

    Volker Kirstein Blippy the Wonder Slug Supporting Member

    So this "red leather" Triumphator Bass shows up in the want ads a few weeks back. It's rusty, but cool. It may even produce sound, but it will require a lot of work to make playable.
    I sent him what I thought was a generous/reasonable bid of €125, including shipping. He finally responded and wants more. I stuck to my guns and responded basically "it's cool garbage. take it or leave it".

    Am I being unreasonable? Is this something other than cool looking garbage?
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  2. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    Nope, I think you nailed it.
  3. Nashrakh


    Aug 16, 2008
    Hamburg, Germany
    No, sounds reasonable. But I get that he will try to get the most out of the deal too, understandably so.

    Let us know how this works out and whether you can get it working again.
  4. Stumbo

    Stumbo Guest

    Feb 11, 2008
    Cool of my new band...take it or leave it.:thumbsup:
  5. jd56hawk


    Sep 12, 2011
    The Garden State
    You're not being unreasonable.
    Neither is he.
  6. bass40hz

    bass40hz Cigar smoker, scotch drinker, American Patriot

    Aug 13, 2014
    Sussex County, NJ
    no endorsements yet...Are you listening Spector, DR, GK, Line6?
    It's a great bass to hang on your wall as a piece of conversation art, nothing more.
    Rock on.
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  7. Wisebass


    Jan 12, 2017
    Lost in Space
    Hi Volker :)

    125 Euro is enough! It' s not unicorn leather! :laugh:

    Most of these "department store" basses were already garbage when they were new.

    Impossible to get the intonation right above the 12th fret etc. etc.

    But of course someone who sells it, will tell you that they are "mojo loaded milestones of rock history". :D


  8. Bass V

    Bass V

    Dec 11, 2008
    Honolulu, Hawaii
    if it's a bass you actually hope to play then I'd say the chicken feed you offered is absurd
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  9. FunkHead

    FunkHead Supporting Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Lol, It's got the dreaded Zero fret. At that point I don't even want it for free.
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  10. charlie monroe

    charlie monroe Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 14, 2011
    Buffalo, NY
    I don't know anything about the bass in question, but it is kinda cool looking if you are into retro.

    I am interested in your statement about zero fret though. What is it that you don't care for?
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  11. FunkHead

    FunkHead Supporting Member

    Mar 10, 2007
    Many of the really crappy, cheap basses back in the day had Zero fret(guitars too). It was just associated with cheap junk. Some really great builders now use it but it's already ingrained in my mind.....
    I also see it as a short-cut to making/cutting/setting up a really good nut.
    It's probably not that way anymore but when I see Zero-fret, I see garbage.
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  12. charlie monroe

    charlie monroe Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 14, 2011
    Buffalo, NY
    That's fair. Sounds like it is manufacturer specific.
    Thanks for taking the time to explain.
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  13. GIBrat51

    GIBrat51 Innocent as the day is long Supporting Member

    Mar 5, 2013
    South Bend, Indiana
    Yeah, I can understand that; I sorta feel the same way - even though a zero fret doesn't have to mean "Cheap". And, sometimes,
    Cut Fretboard 1.JPG it's a necessary thing...:cool:
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  14. FYI, these were made in Bubenreuth, Germany by Klira during the mid 60's. Klira branded them Triumphator and marketed them to be sold as entry level instruments through their European dealer network. The factory made them available in a host of vinyl colour choices with Red being the most common.

    Cool bass but not worth much and original Klira parts are next to non existent if needed and BTW the Klira branded version is called the Arkansas model 561 most of which are covered in White vinyl.

    Good luck should you end up owning it.

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  15. Templar

    Templar Supporting Member

    Don't sugar-coat it!....tell him how you really feel! :D
  16. Templar

    Templar Supporting Member

    Some junky imported basses back in the day came with spoke'd wheel truss rod adjusters, too. First impression?...."crude". Fast-forward a few decades to where no one remembers, and...voila!..."best thing ever".
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  17. Tim Schnautz

    Tim Schnautz

    Jan 30, 2000
    It looks Eastern Bloc from the 70's. In other words- "cool looking garbage"
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    MYLOWFREQ Supporting Member

    May 13, 2011
    To me, it doesn't even worth €125.
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    MYLOWFREQ Supporting Member

    May 13, 2011
    To me, it doesn't even worth €125.
  20. 40Hz

    40Hz Supporting Member

    Absolutely nothing wrong with a zero fret, which offers its own advantages and easily beats the poorly fitted or improperly cut nut you’ll find on a lot of basses hands down. Go ask a luthier. :)
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