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Tuners again - Turbo Tuner

Discussion in 'Accessories [BG] - NEW!' started by Geri O, Apr 17, 2019.


  1. Geri O

    Geri O Supporting Member

    Sep 6, 2013
    Florence, MS
    Wasn't sure where to put this. Please move as seen fit....

    I've been a little frustrated with the assortment of tuners lately. I've been through the usual Boss and Poly-tuner units and I still find, to my old beat-up ears, that the tuning on my basses (Jazz-style, Stingray, and ESP fretless) feels ever-so-slightly sharp.

    A guitarist I know has suggested the Turbo tuner and the specs and features of this thing are impressive. One feature I like a lot is that will store a tuning I come up with. Lately, I've been tuning the G string (here we go) to G2 on a keyboard, if one is available, then tuning the rest of the bass to that G and liking the tuning better.

    Has anyone had experience with the Turbo tuner?
     
  2. JRA

    JRA my words = opinion Supporting Member

    tuning to a piano/keyboard is the same as a tuner --- maybe better! --- in almost any situation.

    sorry, i haven't: but it's not clear to me, from your post/situation, that you have the instrument's setup/intonation in proper order --- do you have the ax setup and intonated? thanks. ;)
     
  3. theduke1

    theduke1 Supporting Member

    Dec 22, 2010
    Manitowoc WI
    I use a Sonic Research strobe tuner it is by far the best tuner I have ever used
    Duke
     
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  4. ProfFrink

    ProfFrink

    Jan 16, 2015
    I've been using the Sonic Research ST-300 Mini for intonation, but usually tune using the Peterson Android app or my Zoom b3n.

    I've learned that a bass that's not intonated correctly can drive me crazy even if it's relatively slightly out of intonation, but if the open-string tuning is off by a cent or two I don't really notice.
     
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  5. Geri O

    Geri O Supporting Member

    Sep 6, 2013
    Florence, MS
    I think that is the Turbo tuner...

    ST-300-top-249h.

    I guess I could get used to the spinning-dial method the display. I sure didn't mind it in high school with the old Conn Strobo-Tuner. What an awesome hulking (and high-maintinience) machine that was...

    To @JRA 's points - Excellent points, and yes, I spend time and attention to the intonation. That's the piano tuner in me (and I still work as a tuner). But even with the open strings, it's like I'm fighting with myself over what I'm perceiving to be the natural "stretch" of the lower octaves where the bass lives. I haven't checked the tuning of this Nord keyboard used at church that I tune to, which I plan to do today while getting ready for a major service tonight (most other situations are pretty much throw and go and the tuning stuff doesn't bug me as much what with trying to concentrate on the tunes, dealing with the commotions of live gigs, etc).

    This same guitarist has two of the Turbo tuners, a full-size unit and the mini version that can't use a 9V battery because of its size. He's bringing both of them tonight and I'm gonna use one to see if it's the solution to my issues (and they may be my issues and my issues alone, I'll admit). At $129, why not....
     
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  6. blowinblue

    blowinblue Blue in name only. Supporting Member

    Nov 29, 2006
    SoCal USA
    I recommend the tuner brand on the left. This model no longer available but the current pedal offerings from Sonic Research are just as accurate.

    tuners.

    M. M.
     
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  7. theduke1

    theduke1 Supporting Member

    Dec 22, 2010
    Manitowoc WI
    I went to this type of tuner because the three bands I work with all use different tunings so I use a Digitech Drop and the only two things that are a must is it must be first in the chain and your bass must be dead on tune.
    Playing 5 string bass the Sonic Research tunes the LowB The most accurate
    Duke
     
  8. chadhargis

    chadhargis Jack of all grooves, master of none Supporting Member

    Jan 5, 2010
    Nashville, TN
    I love my Turbo Tuner. I have the ST-300, which is the smaller unit that runs on external power only. A had one and sold it figuring "it's just a tuner" since I had a pedal on my board with a built in tuner. Boy, was I wrong. The Turbo Tuner is so much better than most tuners. There is something to it for sure.
     
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  9. ProfFrink

    ProfFrink

    Jan 16, 2015
    There's a simple test: The Turbo Tuner still shows some movement when some other tuners show that you're dead on. That's why I always use that for intonation, and it still shows all the small deviations of my fretboard
     
  10. okabass

    okabass

    Mar 19, 2005
    Finland,Lahti
    I've used the TT pedal about 10 years now. Very good tuner, nothing to complain except the corny name.
     
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  11. Geri O

    Geri O Supporting Member

    Sep 6, 2013
    Florence, MS
    Used the ST 300 (?) mini tonight.

    I’m sold. Ordering 2 tomorrow.

    I can deal with the spinning indicator.

    It really makes a difference. To me, anyway.
     
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  12. Jim C

    Jim C Is that what you meant to play or is this jazz? Supporting Member

    Nov 29, 2008
    Bethesda, MD
  13. Geri O

    Geri O Supporting Member

    Sep 6, 2013
    Florence, MS
    It probably works as well as the Boss and Polytuner units. That display does look nice.

    I haven’t seen any comments about its accuracy as I have with the Turbo tuner, although those comments certainly might be out there.

    We all have to decide if a unit works well enough for us and our budget. For example, I live in an old double-wide mobile home that’s dry and warm or cool, as the need dictates. And paid for. And has room for my gear. It’s all I want and need.

    My experience with previous tuners and the Turbo tuner make me glad it doesn’t cost any more than it does.
     
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  14. Goatrope

    Goatrope

    Nov 18, 2011
    Sarasota Florida
    I’ve had the ST-300 (full size) on my board for a few years of 70+ gigs per year. I’m a bit obsessive about tuning, so I’m hitting the button between songs constantly.

    This thing is accurate and built to last. Mine’s been stomped on, dropped, heavy stuff dropped on it, beer spilled all over it, and it operates flawlessly. Nothing is even close, IMO.
     
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  15. Jim C

    Jim C Is that what you meant to play or is this jazz? Supporting Member

    Nov 29, 2008
    Bethesda, MD
    Yep, plenty of well made and accurate turners out there.
    When you get to 40 years of reliability without fail, let me know.
    This one was retired from professional services not that many years ago.
    IMG_0163.
     
  16. Geri O

    Geri O Supporting Member

    Sep 6, 2013
    Florence, MS
    Like I wouldn't shove one of those things in my gig bag if I thought it would fit....:D:D:D

    Or a StroboConn, if I had a bigger SUV...:roflmao::roflmao:

    Edit: I'm sitting here chuckling at the thought of a StroboConn on the stage with that huge microphone sitting on top of it like in high school band days...."Hey, Bill, yer guitar in tune over there? Play me an E! Yeah, you are good to go!"...:laugh::laugh:
     
  17. Aloe

    Aloe

    Apr 10, 2016
    Ukraine
    Sonic Research Turbo Tuner ST-300
    Korg Pitchblack Advance

    the whole site and benchmarks are interesting. it shows, for example that Polytunes are rather bad at needle mode, but okay in strobe. or that most tuners that show in spec +-0.5 cents actually have +-5 cents.

    I'm waiting for StroboStomp HD to become available as my next tuner BTW.
     
  18. walking Bass

    walking Bass Supporting Member

    May 24, 2005
    Northern California
    I bought a Korg DTR2000 years ago and have been very satisfied. I had the 1U rack space the size of the display works better for me than the pedal tuners. I don't like the current Korg unit and would likely get the Peterson VS-R. Like my Korg, it's +/- 1%.
     
  19. blowinblue

    blowinblue Blue in name only. Supporting Member

    Nov 29, 2006
    SoCal USA
    To my eyes, that spinning red wheel on the Sonic Research units is very easy to get comfortable with. Is the extra accuracy of the Turbo Tuners necessary in a live situation? I would say no, based on extended use with both of the tuners pictured in my post above. But others may have ears more sensitive than mine. :)

    Sonic Research ST-122a...+/- .02 cent
    Sonic Research ST-300 Stomp Box...+/- .02 cent
    Sonic Research ST-300 Mini Stomp Box...+/- .02 cent
    Peterson StroboFlip...+/- .1 cent
    Peterson StroboStomp HD...+/- .1 cent
    Peterson StompClassic...+/- .1 cent

    M. M.
     
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2019 at 10:02 AM
  20. Jeff Scott

    Jeff Scott Rickenbacker guru.......... Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2006
    I still have one of the two DTR-1 tuners I bought about 20 years ago. Still a great tuner when I need the rack. Otherwise, my Stroboflip is great, too, when I need smaller portability.

    WW-Amp-In-Rack-Oa-1200-01.
     

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