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Discussion in 'Hardware, Setup & Repair [BG]' started by skguitarsbasses, Dec 13, 2004.
Does that make it the lightest in this 'survey ' up to now?
Yep, they're super light. They're called Res-O-Lite tuners, which I think means plastic. I didn't scrape off any finish to check it, but it feels like the large parts must be plastic. Not that that's such a bad thing, I've been using them for a couple years now with no problems. Never had any issues holding a tuning, they turn nice and smooth and of course there's that weight thing. I'd use them again without hesitation.
Yeah, the res-o-lite tuners use a lot of cast resin (plastic) parts. Nothing wrong with them.
Hipshot ultralites page talks all Bout their weight..weight of others..etc. pretty handy I think.
I don't mind what they are made from either as long as they work.
I've got Gotoh GB350's on my first bass, and the action is fantastic. Silky as can be, never ever slip, zero feeling of backlash.
The buttons (the heads that you turn) are plastic. As far as I can tell, the rest is metal. I would assume aluminum for the casing. I have them in what they call the X-Nickel finish, or something like that, which is a slightly dark nickel look with a teflon-y feel. When I have told people the buttons are plastic, they have found it hard to believe, as the finish is that good and matches the body casing that well.
The feels is decidedly smoother than the import "Licensed by Hipshot" Ultralights I have on another bass.
Here's a summary of the tuner weights I have found, from this thread and other sources. Each column is a different source, and you can see that they are not in perfect agreement.
Also, note that not only are the GB350's lighter than Ultralights, but so are some Schallers and Sperzels are on a par with some of the Ultralights.
I like the look and action of the ultralights better than other tuners I've used. The Gotoh GB-7's also have a nice smooth feel, but I don't think they look as nice as the HB6Y.
Really can't stand the sperzels.
Does anyone have a weight for the Gotoh GB11W?
Hipshot HB-1 (long Key) = 73 grams each, (83 with bushing and 4 screws) on my digital food scales, same as asian machineheads used by Sire (V7 Marcus Miller model) os Sterling SUB by Musicman.
Not to get too deep here, but if you use Sperzels (I'm assuming these are the ones that lock the string in the tuner) you don't need to do string wraps, so that further removes weight from them - right? 3 string wraps on a five strings adds up to something when you're measuring grams.
Get too deep? Never! I was curious, so I did the math.
- Worst case wraps -- comparing large-type ⌀1/2" posts with 2.5 wraps (i checked my basses, and all my posts have only 2 wraps) to Sperzel ⌀.300 shafts with 0.5 wraps (from tuning take-up)
- assume the wraps being eliminated are of fully tapered-down string, which is taken to be as heavy as a .045 D'Addario XL (standard G string)
Result: 0.63 g weight savings per tuner. Thats 0.022 ounces, or about .11 ounces for 5 tuners.
I posted this recently in the Hipshot Tuner thread floating around, but it seems to me like it should be here too:
For anyone interested I had Oscar @ Hipshot check and actually weigh the current versions of the 3/8" Hipshot Ultra Light Y Key tuners - which he stated are as follows:
Licensed version: 50 grams each
USA version: 40 grams each
I have no idea why their website claims they are 44 grams and Oscar didn't either.
Thanks for having me weigh them - I now have another reason to steer my customers toward the US ones....
Interesting in theory but not in application. I have Sperzels on my Carvin and, once properly locked, still require ~3 wraps to "hit the deck" providing the necessary downward angle.
It's been a while since I've had Spertzels, but you don't always have to do that depending on the angle of the headstock. If I recall correctly on my Carvin LB75 I had a half a wrap, but I could be wrong on that one.
Fairly clean textbook install on a tilt-back headstock and it is closer to 2.5 wraps:
Found weight of Gotoh GB11W is 86.0 grams.