Turn my MM Stingray from a H to HH

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by ariff, Aug 2, 2009.

  1. ariff


    Nov 28, 2007
    Lawrence KS
    I have been thinking about this for awhile. I have two MM stingrays. They are both single humbucker basses. One has the pizeo pickup as well. The one with the piezo is pretty rare. It is trans. green with matching headstock I ordered direct from EB back in 2000. SO I want to keep this one stock. I also have a 1997 trans. red ray that is pretty basic, except for the neck. It is to die for. At least for me anyways. It is smooth as butter and has beautiful Birdseye. So I really don't want to part with either but I would like a little more flexibility with my sound. So I have been thinking of adding another humbucker to the neck position on my 97. Make it like a newer HH stingray. I know it would take a lot of work. Routing for a new pickup and routing the back for the selector switch. I'd have my local luthier do this for me. Am I crazy? Should I just forget about it or would this be an acceptable upgrade. I doubt I'd ever want to sell this bass. Since it is very sentimental to me. If I do it I am assuming I could not get a real MM pickup and I'd have to go with a S-Duncan or something.. Any suggestions?
    Thanks guys..
  2. 73jbass

    73jbass Supporting Member

    Apr 17, 2004
    Yes you are crazy!(lol) Most folks that buy MM basses like them unmodified.You could put a few more buck with the money you would spend on unreversable modifications,and get a used HH somewhere.If it ain't broke,don't fix it. The Music Man tone is versitle as it is,in all configurations. If you like the bass that much,don't ruin it.
  3. You could try and find someone that would do a body/electronic trade and keep your neck.

    Other than that, I'd just save up and buy another HH.
  4. LCW

    LCW Inactive

    Mar 2, 2009
    I may get an H for cheap like 500$ and am going to try tp trade it for an HH.

    I would not hack it up IMO.
  5. Beej


    Feb 10, 2007
    Vancouver Island
    If you plan to play it for a long time and aren't concerned about affecting resale value, then go ahead and have it added in.

    In regards to the install, just get someone competent. I'm not soliciting business at all, but I'll tell you, if I personally installed it for you, it would look stock, and you'd never be able to tell it had been added later. Any competent luthier or builder should be able to do this...
  6. mokkat


    Jan 22, 2008
    The easy thing would be to buy a used HH, swap its neck with the one in your single H, and then sell the single H...

    Also I dont think the humbucker of a single H ray and the bridge humbucker of a HH are in the same spot
  7. NO NO NO NO NO!!!!
    Buy a HH Bongo instead.
  8. It's a piece of wood and some metal. Don't be afraid to do what you want with it. :) If you're never going to sell it, then I would say to mod it to your liking.
  9. Yes but, often times people end up selling things after they've modded them unsuccessfully, at a horrific loss. Better to sell it and get something else, IMO. Or just get something else.
  10. 73jbass

    73jbass Supporting Member

    Apr 17, 2004
    Yes they are. The location of the H and HH bridge pickup on the bongos are different though.
  11. ariff


    Nov 28, 2007
    Lawrence KS
    Sounds like the general consensus is to leave her be.. Anyone wanna trade a Ric 4003 for a HH stingray ;>)
    I guess I'll keep it stock. No mods to the EB MM here. Thanks for helping me make up my mind.
  12. 3toes


    Aug 30, 2006
    Denver, Colorado
    I'd always heard that EBMM refuses to sell their pickups/electronics/parts. Wouldn't you have to use a 3rd-party pickup? Or just hope to find a stock one that someone is selling?
  13. +1
  14. hands5


    Jan 15, 2003
    good 'ol USA/Tampa fla.
    it ain't gonna work. Just buy an HH if you can
  15. lpdeluxe

    lpdeluxe Still rockin'

    Nov 22, 2004
    Deep E Texas
    You'll come out way ahead by trading to get a factory-installed HH model. If you were digging into a Squier, I'd say, go for it! But this has the potential to destroy the value (both in resale and as a playable instrument) and is irreversible. Don't believe me? Check out the many, many posts concerning idiots who butchered a bass and then tried to peddle it on eBay. No sympathy, here.

    Here are two good reason to trade up:

    1. The resale value won't be affected, if you ever sell it.

    2. If you get one built like that at the factory, you won't be subject to all the things that can go wrong in modifying your bass, including getting parts that aren't compatible, taking the risk of badly marring the finish when routing for the new pickup, making a misshapen hole in the top you can't stand, and, last but not least, ending up with something that doesn't work, or at least doesn't do what you want it to do. What if you screw it up and you find you liked it better before you changed it? Or that the electronics are unreliable?

    This is a lesson I learned back in my hot rodding days: don't modify something just to make it cool: you end up hurting the performance and usually get a fiddly, unsatisfactory machine.

    Sell the single H, buy an HH. Better yet, TRY OUT a factory HH and decide whether it's worth the expense of trading up and so on. Maybe you won't like it.
  16. PSPookie


    Aug 13, 2006
    Albuquerque, NM
    Besides, since you would have to get an aftermarket pup for the neck you would probably want to swap out the bridge pup as well so they match. By the time you drop that much cash on new electronics, getting the body professionally routed, and a new pickguard, wouldn't you be better off just upgrading to a factory HH?
  17. ariff


    Nov 28, 2007
    Lawrence KS
    You guys are right. I am working on selling some gear to fund a new HH.. Thanks for the help.