two 2x10's instead of one 4x10

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by emielow, Jun 1, 2005.

  1. emielow


    Jan 18, 2004
    i'm selling my hartke 4x10 XL box, and i think i'll buy two 2x10 hartke XL boxes... so less weight, and better to lift up the stairs.. what do you think of this choice? the cabinets are the same, the 2x10 is 3'' less deep..

    the specs 4x10:

    Dual-Chamber, Dual-Ported Cabinet
    Four Hartke XL 10" Aluminum-Cone Bass Drivers
    Power Handling: 400 Watts @ 8 Ohms
    Frequency Response: 30 Hz To 5 kHz
    Sensitivity: 98 dB @ 1 W/1 M
    Voice Coil: 1.5"
    Magnet Weight: 60 Oz.
    Parallel 1/4" Inputs
    Dimensions: 24"(H) X 24"(W) X 15"(D)
    Weight: 88 lb.

    specs 2x10:

    Single-Chamber Sealed Cabinet Design
    Two Hartke XL 10" Aluminum-Cone Bass Drivers
    Power Handling: 200 Watts @ 8 Ohms
    Frequency Response: 50 Hz To 5 kHz
    Sensitivity: 96 dB @ 1 W/1 M
    Voice Coil: 1.5"
    Magnet Weight: 60 Oz.
    Single 1/4" Input
    Dimensions: 14"(H) X 24"(W) X 12"(D)
    Weight: 46 lb.

    i have a hartke 3500 top with 350 watt @ 4ohms, and 175 watt @ 8 ohms.

    so with two cabs from 200 watt @ 8 ohms, i use my top better?????? is this a good choice ?
  2. simpy1


    Mar 31, 2005
    New Zealand
    You'll effectively get more power out of your amp yes, but you may lose some low end going to two smaller cabs.
    I have a 2x10" and a 1x15" and they sound great together. Also living in a city with hills and stairs galore it is good to be able to take just the 2x10" to practices. In a band situation it is great - get the guitarist to carry one of the cabs!
  3. popinfresh


    Dec 23, 2004
    Melbourne, Aus
    Well, as you can see by the specs, the 410 goes a lot deeper going by freq response. So you may not experience the same low end with 2x210's.

    Volume wise, you will be a bit louder as you will be getting the full 350 watts.

    EDIT: as the poster above stated. You may like a 210 + 15 setup better. I run this setup now and I get a great sound all over the spectrum. Full lows, lots of punch and a bright, articulate top end.
  4. emielow


    Jan 18, 2004
    but i dont like the sound of a 15'' speaker... :rollno:


    Jan 25, 2005
    Phoenix, AZ
    You'll have a better, more rounded tone and depth if you didn't have 2 of the exact same cabs...try a 210/112 or (better still) a 210/212.
  6. Tash


    Feb 13, 2005
    Bel Air Maryland
    Do you not like them by themselves or at all? Many of the problems people have with 15s are aleviated by teaming them up with a 210. Its an excellent combo.

    The 210XL was designed to sit on top of the 115XL. It does lack the low end punch of the 410 and will probably need some help in that area from something.

    You could also look into speakers by different company if you aren't totally wedded to the AL cones. That would open up 12s which have much of the low of a 115 without all the boom.
  7. simpy1


    Mar 31, 2005
    New Zealand
    Yeah, I don't like my 1x15" by itself (no horn!) but teamed up with the 2x10" I still get the punch and high end, but it makes a way rounder, fatter sound.
  8. Lonnybass


    Jul 19, 2000
    Minneapolis by way of Chicago
    Endorsing Artist: Pedulla Basses
    Having 2 2x10s also gives you the option to "go vertical" with your setup, adding some flexibility and increasing the dispersion from your speakers.

  9. I run a 410 and a 118. Love it!
    Punch and rumble. Plus, I can leave one behind if I want.
    If you're playing a gig DI'd into the house PA, you're basically playing through 15' or 18', anyway.
  10. Lowtonejoe

    Lowtonejoe Supporting Member

    Jul 3, 2004
    Richland, WA
    Yes, go for the 2 cab 210 scenario.

    When played together, you will probably get near identical bass response (like during a gig) as the 410. For smaller gigs and for practice (if not too loud) the missing bass response will not be that noticeable unless you practice really loud. But for a small gig it won't make a bit of difference.


  11. simpy1


    Mar 31, 2005
    New Zealand
    Also the bass response - 30Hz is basically inaudible so who cares. I turn the 30Hz knob on my head quite far down, the 10" speakers really don't appreaciate having to move about 2 inches either way.....