Two Envelope Filters or 1 + a Octave pedal?

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by vvvmmm, Jul 23, 2021.

  1. vvvmmm

    vvvmmm

    Dec 6, 2016
    Chi
    Assume that's yer dilemma - what doya do?
     
  2. TOOL460002

    TOOL460002

    Nov 4, 2004
    Santa Cruz
    Since you gave no budget, I will say get a Subdecay Prometheus DLX and whatever octaver looks nice.
     
  3. WillyW

    WillyW l’art pour l’art, fonction de baise Supporting Member

    Dec 10, 2019
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  4. vvvmmm

    vvvmmm

    Dec 6, 2016
    Chi
    I have pedals I like (many of each, even including phasers what were not my question), and I thought I was clear - but lemme try again:

    2 envelopes, or 1 envelope and 1 octave - that is my question.
     
  5. TOOL460002

    TOOL460002

    Nov 4, 2004
    Santa Cruz
    Both posts recommended a filter and an octaver, so how can we better serve this question?
     
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  6. WillyW

    WillyW l’art pour l’art, fonction de baise Supporting Member

    Dec 10, 2019
    ok figure it out yourself then
     
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  7. vvvmmm

    vvvmmm

    Dec 6, 2016
    Chi
    By answering my actual question, but don't worry about it - you can talk about budgets and what your preferred pedal brands, models and even classifications are, what you think "looks nice" and what should not be forgotten.

    My question for anyone else stands: 2 envelopes, or 1 envelope and 1 octave?
     
  8. vvvmmm

    vvvmmm

    Dec 6, 2016
    Chi
    Nice - who melted your chocolate?
     
  9. vvvmmm

    vvvmmm

    Dec 6, 2016
    Chi
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  10. Raoul_Duke

    Raoul_Duke

    Jun 13, 2010
    Michigan
    I guess it depends on your needs?
     
  11. vvvmmm

    vvvmmm

    Dec 6, 2016
    Chi
    Honestly, I can't seem to find anywhere I prefer an octave to an envelope lately, but I feel like I "should" have an octave ...
     
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  12. smeet

    smeet Gold Supporting Member

    Nov 27, 2006
    Woodland Hills, CA
    OP, why are you asking us a question that you already answered for yourself? And why be rude to people trying to help you?
     
  13. In general, for me, I would go two EFs. Octaver is harder for me to just “fit in” to a song, it seems more like the band has to be playing something that really needs octaver, or the synth-style sound.

    But 2 EFs is two flavors of a great sound that seems easier to use here and there, just as an accent or a spice.

    One band I play with does demand an octaver because the BL wants a lot of different textures in the bass.

    But I have actually just stepped up to a PT JR and can fit twin EFs and an octaver.

    The SA Spectrum, or the C4, can do both EF and octaver and EF plus octaver in a single patch. That might be a way to have your cake and eat it too?
     
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  14. Adienn7

    Adienn7

    Jan 26, 2007
    simple: boss oc-5. dod fx25, digitech synth wah, mutron clone, seamoon clone, source audio stuff, bozz hyper fuzz, and a maestro octave fuzz. mooer krush pedal.. those get most of the synth tones people are after or get smart.. and get midi keyboard pay record.. hit the play back.. and play along softly.. like a smart person
     
  15. Adienn7

    Adienn7

    Jan 26, 2007
    ps synth is a pain. only add this to your pedal board.. if you want to relearn how you play
     
  16. For me it would depend on the gig but does this help....
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  17. grillman

    grillman

    Dec 15, 2014
    Octave into envelope filter
     
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  18. Two envelope filters can be pretty cool, to use two settings without having to mess with the knobs (not great live) and they can give you some crazy sounds together... but I'd prefer an octaver and a filter envelope. Even better if you add some overdrive. Various combinations of the three will cover a lot of ground with a lot of interesting and useful funky sounds.
     
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  19. cnltb

    cnltb

    May 28, 2005
    totally one env and one oct.
     
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  20. cosmicevan

    cosmicevan ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Inactive Supporting Member

    Both. 2 envelopes AND an octave