Two MM pickups on a custom bass - too much magnetic pull on the strings??

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by Metropolis_488, Jan 14, 2009.

  1. Metropolis_488

    Metropolis_488 Supporting Member

    Jun 12, 2006
    Anyone have any experience with this? I am having a bass built and the current pickup arrangement is for the dual MM pickups - I know that typical MM humbuckers have some strong magnets (as well as most exposed poll aftermarket pups), so I wanted to get some other peoples opinions.

    Also, I am well aware of and have owned an HH Stingray, but it is my understanding that the pickups in the HH are significantly different than the single H (making me think that EBMM saw this as a problem and made corrections accordingly).

    Finally, maybe I should can the whole idea and get a different pickup arrangement... I already have a real cool P-bass with a J in the bridge position. Going for a more modern growl tone with the bass (I have a modulus neck for it). Any thoughts?

  2. Stealth


    Feb 5, 2008
    Zagreb, Croatia
    In theory, just keeping the pickups low enough (distanced enough from the strings) should avoid the magnetic pull.
  3. sheepdog

    sheepdog Guest

    Feb 20, 2003
    Birmingham, AL
    seems to work fine for Warwick and MusicMan basses.
  4. if youre worried about it maybe consider J/H (lakland style) or two soapbar humbuckers (barts?) i dont think it would be a huge problem tho, and you could just lower the pickups.
  5. Metropolis_488

    Metropolis_488 Supporting Member

    Jun 12, 2006
    Lowering the pickups would certainly change the tone (for the better or worse, I don't know)...
    So does anyone have any actual experience with this? (Musicman and Warwick aside - those are basses using pickups designed for that specific application).
  6. depalm


    Apr 22, 2004
    São Paulo
    Too much magnetic pull is a real issue on MM Sabre Basses.
    I have one and I keep the neck PU as low as I can otherwise it will literally suck the strings!

    Maybe Carey Nordstrand could have a custom made MM style PU for you.
    I'm pretty sure he could solve this problem easily.
  7. Metropolis_488

    Metropolis_488 Supporting Member

    Jun 12, 2006
    Thanks depalm!

    I thought so... I know the main reason why Musicman/EBMM 1) stopped production of the Sabre and 2) took so long to produce the HH Stingray/Sterling was because of the problem of the magnetic pull.
  8. I'd like to see someone put a Delano Xtender in something. Maybe get an Xtender and a Lightwave bridge system. That would be ridiculous. Two totally unconventional pickup types...
  9. sunbeast

    sunbeast Supporting Member

    Jul 19, 2006
    Denver, CO
    This is an issue that I've dealt with on G&Ls, for sure (even at the suggested heights that G&L gives in their setup guide, I found the E string intonation to be off due to magnetic pull- it read sharper at the 12th fret than it should have, putting the intonation off for the whole string). Those pickups are REALLY hot though. I actually have learned to prefer the tone of my L2000 with the pickups set pretty low (clearer highs and lows with a much more even midrange). My experience with MM pickups is that they are nowhere near as hot as the G&L humbuckers (MM 'buckers are designed specifically to be used only with a preamp- so the newer ones at least are fairly low output. I think the earlier ones were more along the lines of the G&L pickups though, as the Sabre was actually the predecesor to the L2000). The Nordstrands are copies of the early MM pickups IIRC, so they could be a problem.