Two Notes Torpedo C.A.B. M

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by Raimonds, Dec 4, 2019.

  1. Raimonds

    Raimonds

    Apr 23, 2018
    Just bought this awesome apparatus yesterday. Are there many Two Notes users here? Maybe a community of users who share their presets, use cases, tips etc?

    If you've got any questions about this particular pedal, I can probably answer them.


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  2. keatz

    keatz

    Jan 19, 2011
    I just recently bought a C.A.B at a good price but I jumped at it before researching properly. I really love it but I wish I had got the M. Will probably sell the C.A.B to fund an M.
     
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  3. Raimonds

    Raimonds

    Apr 23, 2018
    XLR was the main selling point for me since I'm playing without an amp and the Torpedo is at the end of my pedal chain.

    Also, this part has a backlight, so everyones sees your flashy IR loader in the dark. Since I'm an overgrown child, this is also a very important feature of the pedal.
     
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  4. Raimonds

    Raimonds

    Apr 23, 2018
    this part glows
     

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  5. bigsnack

    bigsnack

    Aug 24, 2005
    Los Angeles
    I've used the CAB, and now more recently the CAB M, for years! They have a tool where you can blend / create your own IR's and I've made some terrific go-to's using a mix of Lancaster Audio and Ownhammer IR's. The included IR's are good too, so you really can't go wrong!
     
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  6. tonymcbony

    tonymcbony

    Mar 21, 2006
    My question is - does the headphone out do stereo?
     
  7. Raimonds

    Raimonds

    Apr 23, 2018
    The signal is mono but it's being sent to both ears, if that's what you meant.
     
  8. imurrx

    imurrx

    Jul 12, 2019
    Massachussetts
    Another user here.

    I just dumped all my guitar cabs and loaded up 15 bass cabs. Since I bought the Le Bass and came with the wall of sound, I got a few extra cabs for it. I am really liking the AZ Work. There are a bunch of cabs that sound better than the two that are default on the CAB m.

    How are you guys using your amp settings. My signal chain is Bass> Spectracomp> Le Bass > CAB M > Headphones. I am finding the KT88 just about right and the 6L6 as too much.
     
  9. keatz

    keatz

    Jan 19, 2011
    I had the same initial thoughts on the power tube selection, put I'm telling you now, in a live setting the 6l6 has amazing push and feel. I just make sure I have the EQ set to custom with the hpf set at about 40 hz and the low gain down 1db(doesn't sound muchb ma massive difference). Also be sure to have the pressence a tad lower than 100. I've also ended up blending outsourced IR's instead of using the two notes cabs.
    My signal chain is bass-comp-ms3(X7,AO, Mozztronics bod)-Mozztronics bass preamp-C.A.B
     
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  10. imurrx

    imurrx

    Jul 12, 2019
    Massachussetts
    I took your suggestion and did a couple of thinks. So I kept the SWR Working man clone cab in place and switched to 6L6 with about 1 1db gain on it and the presence at 95% and Deep 100%. I used Dynbass 52 at 50% from center 0% distance and a Kinghtfall 30% back dead center (with -5db less than Dynabass52). I set the EQ to custom and had the low cut at 40 hz, +2 DB at 120 -3 at 600 and +4 at 1khz and +1 at 3khz. For the room I used studio B at 30%.

    It turned out to be a fantastic sound.

    I need to find out how to EQ better. I am getting better at mike placement and setting the amp, but the EQ part is the hardest.
     
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  11. Andysalt01

    Andysalt01

    Apr 21, 2006
    United Kingdom
    Hi guys, in a live setting is anyone using this with a valve amp and a cab SIM, with the DI being post power section?
    I'm thinking of grabbing one for more flexibility gigging, as well as home recording.
    Got to say the two notes stuff looks and sounds really impressive from what I've seen in the limited bass demos to date.
    Thanks
     
  12. crguti

    crguti

    Feb 14, 2011
    Scandinavia
    I’m using it for recording bcs I cannot use my bass amp/cab at the studio.
    Right now is part of my home guitar/bass pedalboard and it works great for adding that ‘cab touch’ to my Tech21 preamps.
    One think I dislike, is the 12V power supply.
     
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  13. imurrx

    imurrx

    Jul 12, 2019
    Massachussetts
    The CAB M will work off of 9 volt no problem. The Le Bass on the other hand will not.
     
  14. moretolife

    moretolife

    Apr 21, 2010
    Have any of you used the CABM+ before a bass amp or between a bass head and cabinet? If so, what are your thoughts? What cables did you use to connect it?
     
  15. Verticos

    Verticos Don't just do something; sit there. Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 29, 2007
    I just got one of these and was surprised at the small volume of threads/posts about them. I guess I'll attempt to necro this general thread since the other ones are about more specific questions. I've collected some thoughts after a few days at home experimenting and two gigs with mine, for the benefit of anyone else who may be considering one.
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    The Torpedo is taking the place of an OmniCabSim Deluxe on my board. I'll be honest, I was perfectly happy with the sound I was getting from the OCSD. My normal settings were essentially the "Bass 115" example setting from the manual, and I liked the sound. The noise floor was a bit annoying; the OCSD is pretty hissy. Otherwise I was content with the sound.

    A major gripe for me about the OCSD, though, is the placement of the aux and headphone jacks. I try my best to run a tight and tidy pedalboard. The OCSD is always to the far left, and the aux/hp jacks being on the right side meant that they're inaccessable if I'm really packing the pedals close together on my board. But being able to practice along with music is HUGE, it was a lot of what I liked about that pedal.

    So, in light of that major gripe with the OCSD, you can imagine my delight when I saw the Torpedo had the aux and headphone jacks on the left side! As silly as it may sound, that was a big selling point of the Torpedo for me...

    ...Until I plugged my headphones in and plugged my phone into the aux. My heart sank. I was not aware that the aux input sums to mono. Maybe fine for some, but a complete dealbreaker for me - I will not be using the Torpedo as a headphone amp because of this. What a total shame. I'm not sure what design constraint led to that decision, but I'd gladly give up most of the other ancillary features on the unit for a stereo aux input. I'm not sure if it's hardwired into the design or if it's a bandwidth/processing thing on the DSP chip. If by some magic they make the aux input stereo in a future firmware update, this unit will be near perfect.

    But nevertheless I've sort of fallen in love with this thing. It's a setting-tweaker's dream. I bought a few extra cabs from the online store, including one of my beloved Subway 215 done by Mesa themselves and a different B-15 model than the stock one, plus some Ampeg 810s, a 412, and an Eden 115. The emulations sound great to my ears. All the cab settings I've cooked up have been a tad lacking in upper mids and highs, but I've had the unit for less than a week so I'm waiting to have more experience dialing it in before I pass judgement on that. Maybe I'm just not using the right settings. But besides that, the cabs all sound great. I love being able to tweak the mic selection and placement, and the power amp sim is pretty neat. Everything else (eq, preamp, gate, room/verb, exciter) is either covered elsewhere on my board or not necessary for me.

    Another domain where this unit outshines the OCSD is in the ability to use your own impulse responses. I made impulses of the two settings I like on the OCSD and loaded them up onto the Torpedo - the OCSD impulses on the Torpedo sound near identical to the actual OCSD, so now I can have those at my disposal as well.

    I also decided to compare the power amp sim on the Torpedo to the power section on my B-18N. Impulse out of my audio interface, through the B-18, speaker out into an RNDI into a Grace M101. Now I can take my favorite DI bass tone anywhere. Man, it sounds fantastic. If I ever get rid of this thing, I might have to buy a smaller/cheaper IR pedal just for that.

    Some other qualms with this thing: first, the thru jack is on the right side of the unit. I'm positive that for this, the OCSD, and any other pedal, space is at a premium and it's impossible to mount all the useful/necessary jacks and buttons on one single side (and what if that single side is the wrong one for your use case?) so I'm willing to give Two Notes a mulligan. But, in light of how useless the aux and headphone jack are on this thing to me, I guess I'd rather have the thru on the left side and the hp/aux on the right side, the way the OCSD does it.

    Second, if there's an easy way to bypass this thing, I'm not aware of it. I've gotten around this by setting up preset 001 as BYPASS, but I had to put that preset together myself. It would be nice to have an easy way to switch it on and off, if only for the purpose of comparing your affected/cabsim signal with your dry signal. I find that being able to do that helps keep me grounded so as to not dial in a setting that strays way too far from my desired tone.

    Overall, I don't regret this purchase. I'll continue to use it for now. I've yet to put it through the ringer with my gig that runs in-ears, so I'm looking forward to trying it with that. If I end up using the cab sim sounds a ton, I'll keep it. If my go-to presets end up being my own custom impulses, it may move on to a new home after a while. I guess after rereading this my review dwells on a lot of negatives, so I'd like to reiterate that this thing does what it advertises very well, and it's certainly the best sounding cab sim I've tried yet.
     
  16. Verticos

    Verticos Don't just do something; sit there. Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 29, 2007
    I've used mine before an amp, but only with the unaffected thru output so far. Haven't tried it between an amp and cab yet, but I may put it between the amp and cab of my B-18 in the future and see if I can dial in a sound that's close to my B-18 with a mic on it.

    If you're going from the pedal into an amp, a regular 1/4" will be fine. If you're putting it between an amp and a cab, make sure you're using two speaker-gauge cables and you'll be fine.
     
  17. tonymcbony

    tonymcbony

    Mar 21, 2006
    I’m so here with you. Why on earth they chose to sum the headphone out to mono I have no idea. It actually ended up a deal breaker for me. Loved the cab sims, best tones out there IMO, so much functionality packed in but the mono headphone out, constant hiss, and lock-in for buying cabs meant I sold mine on.
     
  18. Franz975

    Franz975

    May 11, 2022
    Tech 21 unit has by default a cabsim in them (the SansAmp), but it work really great with another one too
     
  19. Nebraska

    Nebraska

    Jul 25, 2021
    Nebraska
    I think the m+ sounds great. The mono headphone jack doesn't matter to me because it's not a stereo pedal - stereo was never expected.
    The thing I'm struggling to justify is the lack of midi. THAT'S the real showstopper.
     
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