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U.S. Made Tobias Basses

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by bieger, Jul 20, 2003.


  1. bieger

    bieger

    Aug 28, 2002
    NYC
    I wonder if they'll be any good. From what I can tell from the NAMM press release, they're going back to their old standard/classic/signature lines. I have a classic from 1991 and I love it. Anyone know about pricing? Anyone think they'll be any good?

    Jeremy
     
  2. I have high hopes for them, but am kind of expected to be dissapointed:(
    I guess I really shouldn't pass judgement unless I get a chance to play them, and this does seem like a good move by Gibson. As for pricing, I have absolutely no idea where they'll be:meh:
     
  3. Andrew Jones

    Andrew Jones Banned

    Feb 28, 2001
    Northampton Mass
    I owned a killer B bolt on five made in 92.That bass was great, I regret selling it:(


    AJ
     
  4. pistoleroace

    pistoleroace

    Sep 13, 2002
    WI
    I have called Gibson twice on when they are going to be out and they have told me they have no idea. The last time I called was probably 6 months ago. I foolishly sold my Classic 5 a year ago and wish I still had it.

    Has anyone officially heard if they were going to re-introduce them?



    http://community.webshots.com/user/pistoleroace
     
  5. The quality went so downhill after Tobias went to Gibson. I worked in a music store and saw tons of them that were messed up. Everything from frets sticking out to one run that was made with terrible wood(the necks would warp). I hope the quality went up.
     
  6. bieger

    bieger

    Aug 28, 2002
    NYC
  7. hands5

    hands5

    Jan 15, 2003
    good 'ol USA/Tampa fla.
    none
    I've also been told by a customer service rep.that the american made Tobiases were to be made again in the U.S.A.If this is the case I will proably purchase another Basic 5 if it is offered however,I was told that the new american basses may come with Seymour Duncans pups and electronics instead of the tried/true Bartolini pups and 3-band eq.With that being said,the Tobias will still have the trademark assymetrical neck but we all will see if this happens
     
  8. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Commercial User

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    Boom Bass Cabinets, DR strings
    I think the Tobias ship has sailed. If the new basses come in anywhere near the pricing of the old basses... let's just say the competition has stiffened considerably since Gibson took the Tobias brand into the toilet.

    Tobias basses were about sound and playability first, not exotic woods. Until you get the first part down the second doesn't mean squat. Gibson didn't seem to understand or care about that before and I'd be surprised if they get it now.

    Then again maybe they'll make something that does more than look like a Tobias from 10 feet this time;)
     
  9. bieger

    bieger

    Aug 28, 2002
    NYC
    I guess we'll have to wait and see. I certainly wouldn't be surprised if the new Tobiases aren't up to snuff, but I suppose I'm still somewhat hopeful.

    I just love the way my Tobias plays and I think the design is still one of the most beautiful (and functional) out there.

    Jeremy
     
  10. steve-o

    steve-o Guest

    Apr 17, 2002
    ive played a 5er..pre gibson..that an my non playing mtd 535 have the best neck i have ever felt...just awsome..i can't wait to get mine workin

    steve
     
  11. bieger

    bieger

    Aug 28, 2002
    NYC
    I probably know the answer to this question, but how bad are the Toby Pro basses? Do they have anything more than a superficial similarity to the basses that Michael Tobias built? In other words, is the playability and tone remotely similar to the old Tobiases? Thanks...

    Jeremy
     
  12. bucephylus

    bucephylus Supporting Member Commercial User

    Aug 18, 2002
    General Manager TecPadz LLC
    Yeah, yeah, everyone keep dis-ing those Gibson Tobias's.

    I bought a 6 string Gibson Classic about a year ago because I wanted a decent 6 without paying Ethan Allen prices for it. Got it for $1500 on the Bay. I had previously owned the most amazing pre-Gibby Sig 5 in Lacewood that was absolutely psychodelic to look at; problem was I never could get with the sound or feel. that bass drove me crazy, so I sold it through Bass NW. Anyway, I had real low expectations for the Gibson version, but believe it or not that has become my favorite bass. It's just flat out perfect. Lesson learned is with ANY handmade instrument, you gotta take them one at a time. We all know Mike is a great guy (he is) and big companies are bad guys (not always), but in this case the pre-anything is better is not 100% true. Mike did a faithfult job with the transfer; and even if you hate Gibson, they kicked out some great versions of the originals. BTW, some poor cats working at Gibson in those days did good work and ought to have gotten a little more credit. Wonder who they were?

    So, keep dis-ing those crummy Gibson Tobias's. The players appreciate it.:cool:
     
  13. hands5

    hands5

    Jan 15, 2003
    good 'ol USA/Tampa fla.
    none
    Agreed although my Basic 5 had outstanding playabiliti
     
  14. extreme

    extreme

    Mar 20, 2000
    I don't care if Gibson starts making them or not...why wouldn't you go straight to the source and get an MTD anyway? Mike continues to refine his craft and does the American MTDs all by himself - the real deal, ya know?
     
  15. bieger

    bieger

    Aug 28, 2002
    NYC
    I certainly see your point, except that I am quite sentimental about my Tobias Classic 5, and would like a six string version. It's not that I dislike the MTDs, but there's something so balanced and beautiful looking about the ol' Tobiases. I feel like I learned how to play the bass with my Tobias and consequently will likely always have an attachment to them.

    Jeremy
     
  16. Ian Perge

    Ian Perge Supporting Member

    May 11, 2001
    Evansville, Indiana
    Two reasons immediately comes to my mind:

    1. As beiger stated above, some people simply like the original Tobias body. I can completely respect the quality and craftsmanship of MTD's, but Tobias' were the first bass I truly fell in love with, and I'd love the chance to purchase a new, high-quality version (whether the new production line will be on par with the previous basses remains to be seen.)

    2. Others prefer the neck-though design of the basic/classic/signature lines, which MTD doesn't currently produce.
     
  17. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Commercial User

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    Boom Bass Cabinets, DR strings
    Nope.

    And for that price point it'd be crazy to expect otherwise. They're decent basses for what they are.
     
  18. Brad Johnson

    Brad Johnson Commercial User

    Mar 8, 2000
    Gaithersburg, Md
    Boom Bass Cabinets, DR strings
     
  19. FWIW, I have a Gibson-made Tobias Renegade 4-stringer which is a wonderful bass,although the string spacing is a little strange and the frets could have been finished better, imho. It is comfortable to play because of it's weight and body style, and sounds super, and unlike any other bass I've ever played.

    I have to agree that, unlike with most of the high-end basses (Alembic, Pedulla, etc.) where you pretty much get (and pay for) high quality everytime, there are a lot of basses made, from companies small and large, which you just have to sort through to find a "great" one - for you. If you don't have lots of cash, taking the time and effort to find a mid- or low-priced bass which works for you from almost any manufacturer is worthwhile. Problem is, of course, finding them.