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Unwanted Personnel to Join Band

Discussion in 'Band Management [BG]' started by Atoz, Mar 3, 2006.


  1. I am currently in a band with some guys from work. Typical band (2 guitars, bass, drums), though we are all over 40. We play mostly covers, with a small amount of original stuff thrown in. We generally split the singing duties, though the lead guitarist and I do most of it. We've got a nice little arrangement going.

    Just yesterday, things got a bit more difficult. Our drummer sent us an email telling us that he had hired a lead singer (also from the office) and he would be handling all the vocals from here on out. It turns out that this guy had heard about our band and told our drummer that he was a "really good singer." :rollno: Lead guitarist and I are pretty upset that our drummer would do something like this without consulting the rest of us. Rhythm guitarist says he doesn't care who sings, and doesn't want to cause trouble. So, we've got a 2-2 split for telling this "really good singer" we don't want him.

    Any ideas on how to handle this? This is a sensitive situation, since all parties involved have to work together on a daily basis, and due to our respective positions at the office, a contentious situation might affect promotion possibilities in the future, if you know what I mean. :scowl:
     
  2. Get everyone together, with out the newbe, and talk. No one has to get loud or nasty either. Is the drummer everyones boss? If thats the case then you have to suck it up and just play. Maybe the new singer is a flake and he wont hang around any way.
     
  3. txbasschik

    txbasschik

    Nov 11, 2005
    Leander, Texas
    You need to let Drummer know that you don't appreciate him hiring someone without consulting the band. You also need to let him know that, if you enjoy singing a song, and he insists on hiring this singer, that you will continue to sing the ones you have been doing. It is unfair for Drummer to just bring someone in without asking, that is going to force people to change roles that they may not wish to change.

    I mean...For heaven's sake, he didn't even make the guy audition! How can you all be expected to just step aside and let the dude in, when you haven't heard him?

    Cherie
     
  4. DaveDeVille

    DaveDeVille ... you talkin' to me ?? Supporting Member

    whoa ... have you heard this guy sing at all ?
    maybe , just maybe , you should give it a chance ...

    still , i would let the drummer know it's not too cool to invite
    someone else to join the band without an audition , or at least
    asking the other band members ...

    as far as the work thing ...
    wow , you got yourself a real touchy situation there .
    you gotta try to keep a level head when dealing with
    people from work ... don't want to piss off a co-worker .

    jmo
     
  5. jazzbo58

    jazzbo58 Bassist for My Man Godbey Supporting Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    New Orleans, LA USA
    You and the Guitarist need to meet with the drummer and work this out now. If you don't things could build up until it sucks being in the band. Work it out now.

    Cheers,
    Jim
     
  6. txbasschik

    txbasschik

    Nov 11, 2005
    Leander, Texas
    'Nuther stray thought about this:

    I do not have enough fingers and toes to count the number of times someone has said, "Oh, you have to have SoAndSo come to your practice/join your band! He/She is a GREAT SINGER!" And then take it upon themselves to bring this person.

    Only to have someone show up who a) can't sing, and b) assumes they are already in the band.

    Not a pretty sight.

    Cherie
     
  7. Thanks, everyone. I just met with our lead guitarist, and told him what I've heard from all of you. Based on all of your help, were going to:

    a) Sit down with our drummer ASAP and tell him politely not to do this sort of thing anymore.

    b) Dispatch the drummer to clarify the point to the singer guy that he has NOT been invited to join the band, and is appearing as a "guest vocalist" for one practice session only.

    c) Listen to the singer guy, and if we like him, then OK. But vocals on songs we already do are going to stay the way they were before he joined, unless the band decides otherwise.

    d) If we don't like him, our drummer breaks the news and takes responsibility. We are fortunate in that he is a really good guy, and won't make up some lie smearing the rest of the band in order to save face.

    Anything we've missed?
     
  8. jwl

    jwl

    Jan 25, 2005
    there is nothing to work out at this point. let the singer show up for practice and see what happens. if this person is good, after practice take drummer aside and say it was a good idea, but next time lets make the decision together. if the singer sucks, after practice take drummer aside and say it is a good idea to invite new people to audition after we all talk it over and decide together. if he gets an attitude about this, he aint your guy. if your situation at work could be affected by your band, come up with some excuse to quit the band. and then quit. do not mix work and pleasure. ever. peace, jeff
     
  9. txbasschik

    txbasschik

    Nov 11, 2005
    Leander, Texas
    Excellent plan!

    Cherie :)
     
  10. Kael

    Kael Supporting Member

    Dec 26, 2004
    Oklahoma City
    Best advice yet.
     
  11. Tell the drummer that the singer will have to be paid out of his split of the money.
     
  12. Lowtonejoe

    Lowtonejoe Supporting Member

    Jul 3, 2004
    Richland, WA
    +1.

    :D

    Joe.
     

  13. Heh... :D


    Well, we had the singer in yesterday.. Dunno if he's going to be a "regular contributor." Sounded like "Robert Goulet does Ozzy." :spit:

    Tx for backing up "the plan," txbasschik + lowtonejoe... jwl, Kael, I shoulda realized that getting into a band with co-workers was akin to "dating in the workplace." I think I'll be a little more careful from now on... :p +1 to everyone who contributed.

    -JAK
     
  14. txbasschik

    txbasschik

    Nov 11, 2005
    Leander, Texas
    "Robert Goulet does Ozzy"...AAAAIIIGGGGHHHH!!! The Infidel Must Die! ;-)

    You're welcome, hon. Those of us holdin' down the low end gotta look after each other! :)

    Cherie :)
     
  15. Yeah... he started out sounding more like an "Ozzy Humperdinck" and kinda went downhill from there. I think he sensed he was blowing it and began to egregiously oversing, hence earning the dreaded "Goulet" moniker. :scowl:
     
  16. txbasschik

    txbasschik

    Nov 11, 2005
    Leander, Texas
    {{{shudder!}}}

    Is your drummer sufficiently abashed and contrite?

    Cherie
     
  17. Indubitably. ;)
     
  18. txbasschik

    txbasschik

    Nov 11, 2005
    Leander, Texas
    That'll larn 'im! :cool:

    Cherie :)
     
  19. Lowtonejoe

    Lowtonejoe Supporting Member

    Jul 3, 2004
    Richland, WA
    Indub...

    Endub...

    Endubya what???

    Is this person related to G-dubya???

    :D

    Joe.

    P.S. Glad to see things are working out.
     
  20. theshadow2001

    theshadow2001

    Jun 17, 2004
    Ireland
    Work is for working
    Bands are for playing
    Friends are for socialising