Usb C iOs Audio Interface

Discussion in 'Recording Gear and Equipment [BG]' started by johnpaulbass, Nov 17, 2021.

  1. johnpaulbass

    johnpaulbass

    Nov 2, 2005
    Slovenia
    Endorsing Artist: Gr Bass, Pyramid Strings, MPE Audio
    Hello,

    my apologies if the topic has already been discussed.

    I'm in a hunt for an audio interface that works with the iPad pro 10.4 (USB C) without the need of anything else.

    Therefor I want to just "plug" the bass, the headphones and via interface directly into the iPad (for recording and practice).

    I was using the line6 sonic port for quite some time but it has the lightning therefor I can't used it anymore (I've bought some adapters but they didn't work).

    If not a specific audio interface with usb C I'm open to other solutions.

    Thanks in advance for your responses.
     
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  2. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    `Huh, I was just going to post the same question, except for Android (Samsung Galaxy S10).
     
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  3. DWBass

    DWBass The Funkfather

    I thought Apple products use the Lightning plug?!
     
  4. johnpaulbass

    johnpaulbass

    Nov 2, 2005
    Slovenia
    Endorsing Artist: Gr Bass, Pyramid Strings, MPE Audio
    they do, most of them.. YET ... my ipad (a 10.4. pro) has the Usb C
     
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  5. You can use nearly every interface that works without native drivers. You can even use usb 2 interfaces with a usb-2 -> usb-c cable.
     
  6. You can use nearly every interface that works without native drivers. You can even use usb 2 interfaces with a usb-2 -> usb-c cable.
     
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  8. Akai EIE (red one not grey one) works with iOS as it's Core Compliant, might be out of production now though. Mine works fine with my iPad.
     
  9. the baint

    the baint

    Jan 1, 2010
    Greenville, SC
    Techtronic Industries, North America employee. Opinions are my own.
    I'm really confused. Can you not use one of the Apple (or 3rd party) Lightning to USB-C cables?

    Update: I just read through a Line 6 forum of users stuck in your exact situation. Apparently there's some bug (though that cable SHOULD work if everything was correct) and Line 6 has shifted the blame towards Apple and not given any updates in a few years.

    I LOVE the quality and sound from Apogee. I've been running the original Duet in our home studio for a decade. For your situation I've been eying the JAM+ for a while: JAM - Guitar Interface for iPad & Mac - Apogee Electronics
     
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  10. BassFalcon

    BassFalcon

    Nov 18, 2020
    I have an iRig pro duo 2 or something like that, it came with a mess of adapters for just such occasions. The ad copy for this replacement adapter they sell tells you all of their models it works with. Any of those would the trick for you. IK Multimedia - USB-C to Mini-DIN cable
     
  11. brianrost

    brianrost Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 26, 2000
    Boston, Taxachusetts
    Keep in mind that USB-C itself on the interface is unimportant. Some interfaces with USB-C connections like the MOTU M2 I use are actually still operating at USB 2.0 speeds.

    Part of the confusion is that USB-C is a connector type, not a protocol. It can handle USB 4, USB 3.1, USB 2.0, USB1.1 if you like, plus Thunderbolt 3 and 4...whatever protocol the devices at both ends support. You can just buy a type C to type B cable to connect your iPad to interfaces that don't have USB-C sockets yet.
     
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  12. dbsfgyd1

    dbsfgyd1

    Jun 11, 2012
    Mascoutah, IL
    ‘I have an IPad Pro. It will work with Steinberg UR12. But you need to have to keep in mind that the IPad is the power source for the UR12. As I found out he charge doesn’t last long.

    My advice is that you make sure what ever you buy can use an external power source.
     
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  13. brianrost

    brianrost Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 26, 2000
    Boston, Taxachusetts
    For interfaces that use USB for power, using a powered USB hub between the iPad and interface is needed to not drain the iPad battery quickly. Of course, that defeats "without the need of anything else".

    Most small interfaces are USB powered. Larger interfaces tend to need more power so will have wall warts or even AC supplies...but those interfaces are complete overkill for the OP's application.

    Apple is retiring Lightning for USB-C on tablets partly because new European regulations requiring it have been proposed and will probably be ratified soon. Lightning is still used on all iPhones.

    USB-C is a connector standard and many different protocols can be passed over cables with USB-C connectors: USB, Thunderbolt, Firewire, HDMI, Display Port, Ethernet, and digital audio.
     
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  14. pglaser01

    pglaser01

    Mar 19, 2013
    St. Louis, MO
    If only I were that good....
    Furthermore it will be likely that Apple will continue to restrict any and ALL adapters, cables, interfaces, or workarounds unless you by it from them directly.
     
  15. matdras

    matdras Supporting Member

    Dec 18, 2011
    Fort Collins, Colorado
    I’ve had great success with my MOTU M4 and an iPad Pro. Literally plug and play. I’ve heard that people have had issues with supplying sufficient power to the interface, but I haven’t experienced one problem while using an Anker power flow cable in the setup. There’s a handful of audio interfaces out there that should provide similar results, but after owning Universal Audio, Antelope Audio, Focusrite, and SSL gear in the past (obviously not all compatible with iOS), I still purchased another MOTU. Perhaps lack of battery life may come into play at some point, but no complaints yet.
     
  16. dbsfgyd1

    dbsfgyd1

    Jun 11, 2012
    Mascoutah, IL
    Thanks for the info. My IPad pro is 5 years old, and frankly USB-C would be a welcome change over Hotwire.
     
  17. Don't think so. The new computers from Apple have the ports back, the iPad Pro with USB-C instead of the lightning port indicate a step in the opposite direction, too.

    I 100% agree that what Apple did with ports, esp. on their notebooks, during the last years is ridiculous.

    But:
    Apple iPhones and iPads work flawlessly with most usb-interfaces - even dated ones - since the very early iPhones - o.k. I admit you had to buy the camera-connection kit for 30,-. But Android users could only dream of what was possible with iOS devices and audio interfaces since more than a decade.
     
  18. johnpaulbass

    johnpaulbass

    Nov 2, 2005
    Slovenia
    Endorsing Artist: Gr Bass, Pyramid Strings, MPE Audio
    Thanks to all for your inputs! :)
     
  19. brianrost

    brianrost Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 26, 2000
    Boston, Taxachusetts
    Heading a bit OT here.

    With "the Cloud" now a reality and Wi-Fi in homes and offices commonplace, I'm sure Apple expects the vast majority of laptop owners to use Wi-Fi networking for almost everything. I think they are right...it's only when you put a laptop (or tablet) on a desk that you might want cabled connections.

    My last two office jobs (2010 to 2017) gave all the employees laptops with a dock on their desk for power and connecting monitors and a headset. That was it...everything, including telephone calls, was done over Wi-Fi.

    At home my wife and I use Wi-Fi to connect to our printer, backup disks, stereo system (for streaming audio) and TV as well as sharing the disks on each other's laptops for any file transfers. I do use a $15 USB-C pocket hub for reading SD cards and connecting USB-A drives. So for both of us, two ports on a laptop are enough.

    I use an iMac in my music room, of course that has lots of ports. If I wanted to use my laptop instead, I'd have to buy a dock or powered hub with at least 3 USB ports, but that's all.
     
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