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Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Mamoru, Jun 14, 2021.
Wow, maybe i should list my '98 LB70 (avatar pic).
That bass is a beauty.
For what it's worth, I've been ordering from Carvin/Kiesel for decades and have generally had good experiences with the customer service. I wouldn't hesitate to order again.
Not a big fan of their newer designs, but I like the old ones.
You mean this video:
It does sound like he backs off quite a bit, I remember around this time the drama was out of control. Jeff made an apology video about the customer service in between. It's really hard to follow drama like this sometimes, the bad stuff is really loud and gets a lot of attention and you don't really always see how it turns out.
I was absolutely devastated when they discontinued the Bunny Brunel but of course that was not their call. I wish they would re-do it and change it enough to where they could use it, but still keep the basic body size and upper horn.
I bought 4 different basses from Carvin and one Kiesel and they haven’t really change. Good customer service and the price seem fair to me.
They phased out the LB serie and introduced more bolt-on and headless models. More metal oriented shape mostly.
my Zeus is the best sounding Carvin I have. They sound very nice and feel so much better to me than other brand like Warwick or EBMM. But this is just me.
I bought an LB75 in a pawnshop last year for $700. Best deal Ive gotten on a bass. Looking for a PB5 now.....
Thank you. I’m quite fond of it. .
This one looks pretty awesome:
Used Carvin Bunny Brunel 5-String Bass, Lane Poor Legacy Pickups, Black, BB75 | Uncle Ike's Music & Sound | Reverb
I saw the LTD version, but this one with a single soap bar pickup has vibes. Me being me I would probably switch out the pickup with an MEC MM style pickup (if it fits). Unfortunately 5 strings are not really my thing.
I love the look of an all black bass, but with a gloss finish.
Custom options on a guitar is like adding chrome to your Harley Davidson.
You’ll never get additional cost back at resale.
If I can assume that the first video is accurately portrayed, I’m not a fan of Keisels attitude towards the people that put food on his table.
I was going to post his apology video but I couldn't find it. I feel like I only got half the story, sorry if any Kiesel/Carvin fans were thrown off by that.
The drama seemed to be a bigger thing in the guitar world, and other forums so I was surprised when someone mentioned getting a Kiesel. It seems like their fans are very divided.
Jeff was/is very active on social media, and I have no social media at all. I guess it can help and hurt a business when the owners are very active online, because all the good and bad is basically all out there for everyone to see.
Very happy with both of my Bunny Brunels. '99 BB57 (yellow), '98 BB75F (blue burst). The '76 PBass is not too shabby either.
Hated to see Bunny part ways with Carvin. I was close to buying a third BB when that happened. The BB75 was about 1200 and the BB75F was about 1000.
A local music store had 3 Carvin's recently, two were six strings. The prices kept going down until they finally sold them. Last I saw they were asking about $700 each.
I always felt that Carvin was an interesting company. Direct to customer, large scale, custom guitars and basses - and then a standard line of amps and PA gear.
The resale value on Carvins was always low - maybe half the new price, if in excellent condition, or 1/3rd! Some great steals put there that were $1,200 new but only went for $400 used. Of course you were buying someone else’s option preferences, though they have a standard line of instruments.
That said, it was hard to find used Carvin guitars locally in the 90’s. The people who custom ordered them either kept them or were unwilling to accept the market price on something they paid a lot for. I’ve owned a few Carvins over the years - all quality instruments. All bought used for a bargain.
Prices on new instruments are high - from all guitar makers. $1k for a mass produced import is not uncommon. Makes Kiesels seem more affordable, new. Not sure what the wait time is for a custom bass though. Finding a used one means you can be playing it at a gig within a week. For some, that is worth the current used premium prices - especially if you find one optioned the way you would have ordered it.
Wow! Terrible attitude towards his customers.
I know this isn't a Carvin but I think an example of something that might not sell right away
Peavey T-40 Bass Guitar | Reverb
Yeah Jeff does a weekly Q&A Live on Facebook and Instagram. He has special deals on guitars for that hour and sometimes has a 'pick your top' deal where you get to literally pick out the top you want on your build.
One one hand where else can you do that? You don't see Paul Reed Smith personally talking to potential customers
On the other hand, Jeff can be a polarizing guy that does not mince words. He knows what he's doing and he does get a lot of silly questions!
Make sure to watch the followup video where Kiesel built the customer a new neck and the guy who made that video admitted not knowing the facts and apologized for being wrong.
Will do! Thanks
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