Van Halen 1 - flats or rounds

Discussion in 'Strings [BG]' started by TheArchitect, Feb 7, 2023.

  1. TheArchitect

    TheArchitect

    Aug 4, 2009
    Discuss .. I hear flats..
     
  2. "Van Halen 1"... Got a media on this to make it a little easier for the rest of us to take part in the discussion?
     
  3. FRoss6788

    FRoss6788 Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 25, 2012
    Olympic Peninsula
    With all the studio "magic", you may never know.
     
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  4. silky smoove

    silky smoove Supporting Member

    May 19, 2004
    Seattle, WA
    My guess is rounds with some treble roll-off or similar EQ applied in the studio. Just a guess though.
     
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  5. TheArchitect

    TheArchitect

    Aug 4, 2009
    Really? If you need it....
     
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  6. TheArchitect

    TheArchitect

    Aug 4, 2009
    Where do people think all of this studio magic came from in 1977? Its highly over rated ...
     
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  7. FRoss6788

    FRoss6788 Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 25, 2012
    Olympic Peninsula
    Skilled producers and recording engineers using very high end equipment (of the day) that was not, and generally still isn't, available to the everyday player. Not that hard a concept.
     
  8. silky smoove

    silky smoove Supporting Member

    May 19, 2004
    Seattle, WA
    Just off the top of my head; In 1977 you could take a bass and run it through the recording console’s EQ and then patch it into an 1176 to completely change the characteristics of the source signal with relative ease. Run the signal in and just play with the attack and release controls, and you can drastically alter the feel of a note’s initial transient to appear like a different input had occurred to the listener. That, to me, is pretty magical.
     
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  9. Smooth_bass88

    Smooth_bass88 vaxx!

    Oct 31, 2006
    Western Hemisphere
    Mike wasn’t known to use flatwound strings. For the first Van Halen record it was a Precision bass through SVTs generally played with a pick.
     
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  10. Bass4ThePublic

    Bass4ThePublic Supporting Member

    Jan 27, 2019
    Kansas City
    van halen is totally roto 66's. Hard rock with big amps, p basses, a pick? Rotos 100%
     
  11. TheArchitect

    TheArchitect

    Aug 4, 2009
    All of which is audio 101. Nothing magical about it
     
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  12. dpaul

    dpaul

    Jul 10, 2015
    Hamilton, NJ
    Old Roundwounds on a P-bass, pretty much same bass tone on first 3 albums.
     
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  13. Studio competency might be a more accurate term. Engineers who knew their way around a mixing board, mic placement, room acoustics & outboard processing gear. Good quality monitors for mix down. Really no alchemy involved at all.
     
  14. silky smoove

    silky smoove Supporting Member

    May 19, 2004
    Seattle, WA
    You say that, but put someone inexperienced in front of an actual hardware 1176 and the results are often anything but magical.
     
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  15. TheArchitect

    TheArchitect

    Aug 4, 2009
    But not one based in fact. That gear is all very much available. I have an 1176 clone. It compresses things quite well but it has yet to turn a P into anything but a P
     
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  16. lowendrv

    lowendrv

    Dec 12, 2007
    SoCal
  17. FRoss6788

    FRoss6788 Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 25, 2012
    Olympic Peninsula
    It's an expression dude...

    If anyone could've done it, then everyone would have...
     
  18. Barticus

    Barticus Supporting Member

    Sep 16, 2017
    Midwest
    Um yeah… :woot::roflmao::laugh:
     
  19. J-Bass RMR

    J-Bass RMR Supporting Member

    Rounds.

    Quadrophenia; Flats or rounds?
     
  20. Smooth_bass88

    Smooth_bass88 vaxx!

    Oct 31, 2006
    Western Hemisphere