Versatile rig advice needed, ditch my 410 for a second 112? Occasional low B doom capable?

Yo,

hope I’m doing this right, long time listener, first time caller.

So I have an ampeg PF-500 (LOVE IT, btw), an SVT 410HLF, and a Hartke HD112. I play a lot of stuff, plenty of gigs where the 112 is the right amount of sound. But I also do some abrasively loud basement shows and outdoor DIY doom metal gigs, which is obviously where the 410 comes it. I love the sound of the 410 but it drives me insane that I can’t bring it up the stairs to my rehearsal space by myself and need to drive around with this mini fridge until I can get a band mate to come by before rehearsal and struggle with me to get this thing up the stairs.

so the question is, I’m thinking of selling the 410hlf and picking up an avatar SB 112 to pair with the Hartke 112. I’m thinking it’ll sound great and will be well loud enough for most of my gigs, plus I can just make two trips to the car and easily carry my whole rig and bass. But will it be loud enough for thooose gigs, the outdoor doom metal slammers at the skate park under the bridge?? Will driving the absolute hell out of 2 112s be enough to blow the minds of a bunch of stoned 19 year olds?

Is it worth it to ditch this incredible sounding 410 that’s absolutely wretched to haul around in exchange for a 2 112 array? I know 2 112 will be way loud enough for 95% of what I do, but what about the last 5% where I’m on the low B of my stingray all night with the gain absolutely dimed on my pf500.

pls help.

 

I can get the avatar a good bit cheaper, $125, than I could get a second HD112. And I’m like in my early twenties and eating ramen noodle ya know? Lol. It also helps that depending on what I get for the 410 (got it $275, asking $250) that $125 when the deals all done, a week or so before rents due would be cool.

Edit: a second HD112 would be very cool tho, it’d look cleaner and they’re awesome cabs.

 

Thanks for the input, it’s exactly as I feared lol. How the hell does anyone bring one of these 100lbs 4x10 to every gig?? I guess it’d be easier if I wasn’t in a city where everything requires atleast a flight of stairs.

 

Hmmmm, now there’s an option I hadn’t really considered. I guess the main reason I was thinking 2 112 instead of switching to 2 210s is cause I already have the HD112. That’s a cool idea, would just take some extra gymnastics to try and trade in the HD 112 and the svt410 for 2 210s somewhere.

 

Oh I know, that’s definitely what I want lol, mesa’s are badass. But I will remind of the previous post about being in my early twenties and broke. Or are you just seconding 2 210s in general, like I said, it could be done but it’d take some finesse to get the dough together.

 

Is the difference between 2 210s and 2 112s really that substantial? I’ve never run either of those setups so I wouldn’t know. I guess a 210 is more speaker area, tho maybe also slightly less portable?

 

Well warmer sounds nice to me and I’m liking the tone of the 112 I have now. My central question is still would 2 112s be able to do the job of this 100lbs beast of an ampeg 410 I’ve got now?? Would there be a noticeable volume difference between my ampeg 410, 2 112s, or 2 210s? Lol or would it all keep up with the low B of my stingray cranked thru my PF500?

yeah, I haven’t got to play any of the new Mesa stuff but everyone seems to LOVE it! Cool 410 too, I really love the sound of my ampeg 410 but living in Philly having the more modular 2 112s or even 2 210s would be a lot easier to transport up and down the stairs to my rehearsal space and apartment. Drives me INSANE that I can’t get my 410 up and down stairs without a second person to help. And thus, it ends up sitting in the trunk of my outback for 10 days until someone will help me out, and I’m just hoping no one smashes my window for it one of these days.

 

Thanks for your help tho!

now thaaaatd would be a sick rig, it is what I want, what I can afford right now?? No sadly, I mean 4 fearful 112s and an SVT CL would be great. But the idea of a more modular speaker array is generally what I am thinking of switching to.

sounds like that’s spoken from someone with experience. Any recommendations to solve my issue then or is the real answer to just deal, no free lunch when it comes to playing loud? Or is there a way around this?

edit: just saw that u added the inflatable dolly idea, this ampeg 410 has some pretty heavy duty casters on the back bottom corner, do I just slam it up the stairs? Lol