I posted this in the bassist column after seeing Victor give a great little clinic. Unfortunately, I got no response to my specific question, so I am reposting here: As a classic finger style and thumb-finger pluck funk player, I was intrigued by Vics explanantion and demonstration of his thumb-fingerstyle, which involves both down and upstroke motions with his thumb followed by first and/or second finger plucks plus hammer-ons. He gets this goind in nice smooth runs of 3-6 beofre seamlessly repeating the motion. Further his tone maintains very discrete attacks on each note. I tried this last night and can get no where near his thump-pop sound with this efficient motion. If I don't wack down on the string with my thumb as a slap, then I get a mellow, slow attack tone, which is totally un-Vic-like. I didn't expect it would be easy and I doubt it is attributable to differences between his Fodera and my Stingray, but I would like to be able to pull this off even at 20% of what Vic does. Any insights??