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Vintage G&L Club

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by thechillinvillain, Apr 19, 2014.

  1. twinjet

    twinjet What does God need with a starship?

    Sep 23, 2008
    I was sure it happened a few years ago.
  2. thechillinvillain


    Apr 18, 2014
    A few years ago, I would have agreed with you that it would have been low probability to get them to do something like this. But... they just opened a custom shop this year for exactly things like this, so there's a better chance now than there has ever been. And they know that people have been clamoring for an El Toro reissue for years, so they have good reason to do it.

    It'd also be a really cool thing to prod them to do. If you could somehow pull it off, it would also essentially pave the way for everyone else too, so you'd be doing a community a solid.

    I guess it's your mission now, if you choose to accept it ;)
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  3. Are you referring to the CLF Research reissues like this L-2000? As I understand it, the 2K is meant to "pay homage" to the original L-2000 e-series, but the original v1 preamp is not being reproduced? (and likely the pickups are not wound to exact original specs?) G&L can replicate the original headstock shape, control plate and knobs, but without the v1 electronics package, the reissue will not be the same brutally powerful, amp overdriving monster bass that the originals were, as anyone who has owned an e-series can attest. I'm sure it's a fine bass, same as all current L-2000's are, and it's cool as hell looking, but it's no e-series. The CLF reissue L-1000 should come pretty close to the originals, being passive, but the modern MFD humbucker is not the same pickup as the '80 large hex, or '81 slot pole version MFD. But close enough so the overall vibe is there, I guess.

    The problem with the El Toro would seem to be recreating the pickups. Not saying they can't do it, just saying retooling for that sort of thing can be expensive, so the demand for a reissue would have to be strong, seemingly stronger than a handful of us Gleeks here on Talkbass, most of which aren't likely to put our money where our mouths are at crunch time, anyway. Still, anything is possible. No harm in dreaming in the meantime, eh? ;)

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  4. Dayum, where'd the time go? Now I have to decide what to do with mine. I was all set to do the capacitor mod to get it to sound a bit mellower. If that didn't work then the plan was to sell it. Maybe instead I'll hang onto it for a while, wait for its reputation as an unruly aggressive beast to be "discovered", and watch the value go up. ;) Kinda hate to jettison it, being that it's such an exemplary example and all.
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  5. TomB

    TomB Supporting Member

    Aug 24, 2007
    I'd expect the Kiloton represents the "taming of the beast", being essentially similar except passive with coil-switching and with an added pickguard. Oh, and the body's a little smaller, too. I haven't tried a K-ton myself, but they ought to carry on the legacy of the beast, I'd imagine. Heck, I run my 1500 passive anyway.
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  6. That makes sense, I'm certain the preamp is the culprit. Or more specifically, the op-amp chip. A long time ago I bought a used L-1500 that was so harsh and noisy in active mode that it was unplayable with the pre engaged. I contacted Memo at G&L about it. He told me they had a run of bad op-amps around the time mine 1500 was built. He sent me a replacement chip which solved the issue. OTOH, my 1505 was a great sounding bass which leads me to suspect that different op-amp chips were used in the 1500 series basses at different points in time?
  7. TomB

    TomB Supporting Member

    Aug 24, 2007
    Quite likely. Mine is a 2009, with a #8 neck. The preamp is certainly aggressive, but very useable in the right circumstances. I just mostly don't encounter those circumstances :). In passive mode though, it covers many bases, and certainly gets into StingRay territory.
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  8. kevink

    kevink Supporting Member

    Dec 25, 2001
    Glendale, Calif.
    I had that same exact bass pictured back around '82. Suffering from Fender envy, I didn't appreciate it, despite getting massive tone on our band's records, and sold it years later for nothing. So sad. Having said that, she was a pretty hefty gal though.

    Thanks for posting the pic, it brings back a lot of memories. I haven't really been able to find a pic on the internet of my oldie until today.
  9. Kukulkan61

    Kukulkan61 Supporting Member

    Feb 8, 2011
    Northern Arizona
  10. Kukulkan61

    Kukulkan61 Supporting Member

    Feb 8, 2011
    Northern Arizona
    I have a 1981 L1000 coming in next week, it’s mahogany with a maple board is it gonna be a heavy bass?
  11. Gilmourisgod


    Jun 23, 2014
    Cape Cod MA
    Yeah, it probably will be heavy if my 83’ L2k is any judge, but heavy is relative. I’d rather have a well balanced heavy bass than a light neckdiver any day, and G&L’s are well balanced basses.

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