Vintage Marshall Bass Rig - Super Bass

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by shadven, Jun 19, 2019.

  1. shadven

    shadven Twang-tastic Bass Player and Song Writer Supporting Member

    Dec 30, 2009
    Tampa, FL
    I rock, therefore I am.
    One of my little hobbies is big and loud vintage bass rigs.

    I am loving the my recent Acoustic 360/361 acquisition, I really dig my Ampeg SVT and 8x10 cab, my favorite is probably my 1970's Ampeg V4B with the matching 2x15 folded horn V4B cabinet. In my defense, I do play in bands and I gig several times a month, and these big rigs do get used.... not all the time, but when I have a big room or outdoor gig I bring the big guns.

    But, now I am onto Marshall.... I just picked up a late 1960's Marshall cabinet, Model 2032. It's a tall 4x12 cabinet (the size of a typical 8x10) and it was made for bass or organ (see attached). The cab has two of the original speakers and sounds great using one of my other heads.

    I don't know a ton about Marshall bass heads, but do know that I want to go vintage. I think a hand-wired pre-1973 Super Bass 100 watt is my best choice.

    I've never played bass through a Marshall Super Bass. Does anyone out there have any tidbits, words to the wise, and/or experience playing though a Super Bass rig?
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  2. chadds

    chadds

    Mar 18, 2000
    Had the 4x15. Back vibrated vigorously. Later it was braced and caulked.
    The amp you want is the late ‘60s very early ‘70s Superbass 100. A Superlead 100 could work. Highs to mids are less colored. There is a resistor difference between them if memory serves.
    Your cab I’ve only seen as the 8x10 so cool on finding that.

    Those old cabs had bass specific speakers and reproduced the lows.
     
  3. Wasnex

    Wasnex

    Dec 25, 2011
    Channel 2 of a 1959 Super Lead should get you close enough to see if your really interested. Tonewise, a JMP and early JCM 800 should be pretty similar

    The difference between the Super Bass and Super Lead is matter of a few resistors and capacitors, and there are several changes. Here's post that details the components changes for a conversion. Superbass to Superlead conversion ?
     
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  4. salcott

    salcott Supporting Member

    Aug 22, 2007
    NYC, Inwood.
    It might not conform to vintage purity, but a Marshall Major would probably work.
     
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  5. fretno

    fretno

    May 10, 2009
    Nashville
    I've had several Marshall's and I'm a big fan, they will get grindy when pushed so be ready but any 70's JMP will rip your face off . 80's Super bass or vintage will slay They are the same with a few minor differences throughout the years .up to the 80's that was more designed for a bass but the end result is the same , Marshall tone \m/ pre 72's are gonna cost ya now as will the JMP's all shot up $$$ . Any of those early leads are virtually the same except for a "bright cap" value so don't shy away from any old Marshall . My personal fav over the years was a '73 pcb 50 watter . It was a beast . I don't need 200 or 300 tube watts anymore . The old amp often need a cap change and this & that but for me the more stock the better . Good luck with your hunt .
    My big rig is a '68 Marshall 4x12 with Basslites and any # of amps I feel like hitting it with , ELF, LB30 or a Mortatone Super clone ( 60 watts) or the GK . The basslites can take a hit and keep on going for the throat .
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  6. shadven

    shadven Twang-tastic Bass Player and Song Writer Supporting Member

    Dec 30, 2009
    Tampa, FL
    I rock, therefore I am.
    That Morta Tone is badass! I have an ELF in my gig bag as the "perfect" backup head. I am pretty surprised how great it sounds. The pre-72 Marshalls are pretty pricey, but once I start really hunting a decent priced something will eventually show up. Thanks for the feedback.
     
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  7. shadven

    shadven Twang-tastic Bass Player and Song Writer Supporting Member

    Dec 30, 2009
    Tampa, FL
    I rock, therefore I am.
    I am going to try to hold out for a Super Bass. It worked for Lemmy (though, that is no my sound). I do like a pretty deep and mid-range sound. I've always liked Ampeg SVT/V4B.
     
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  8. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Inactive

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    All I can say is good luck with your hunt. Cool cab. Cool band (checked out your website).
     
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  9. two fingers

    two fingers Opinionated blowhard. But not mad about it. Inactive

    Feb 7, 2005
    Eastern NC USA
    All I can say is good luck with your hunt. Cool cab. Cool band (checked out your website).
     
  10. fretno

    fretno

    May 10, 2009
    Nashville
    That is the best sounding amp I have ever owned , It's a Super amp with a EF86 in the pre . it's crazy good , fulla chime , dirt & grunt . Now the LB30 is a little beast too . These days I prefer a lower wattage tube amp to get some grind going before the police show up .
     
  11. sjrash

    sjrash

    Nov 30, 2007
    Tampa, FL
    Hey Mike. My band has played some shows with you guys. I’m right there with you on the vintage gear. If I’m not mistaken, Prescott Niles (The Knack) played through a Superbass rig. Sounded excellent.
     
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  12. fretno

    fretno

    May 10, 2009
    Nashville
    Put basslites in that big cab :cool:
     
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  13. bobyoung53

    bobyoung53 Supporting Member

    I'll second the Marshall Major, they're 200 watts vs the 100 for the Super bass, they're not cheap nowadays but then either are Super basses. They also made lead and bass models, the 1967 was for guitar and the 1978 was for bass. I used to use one with two Sunn 2000S cabs, they look just like bigger Marshall heads. Marshall tone controls are not nearly as responsive as an SVT's or a V4-B's but they have a really nice tone and a deep and a bright channel, you can jump the channels with a little cord and get pretty good control of your tone. . The Marshall Majors were very clear until you turned them up and I'm talking earthquake territory kind of like an SVT.


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  14. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    With a Superbass, all you'd need is a 4001 and you can join a Yes tribute!
     
  15. /\/\3phist0

    /\/\3phist0 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) mmm Woody! DHDIK? Sweet Treets. Supporting Member

    Get a RIC and get your Lemmy on!
     
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  16. devnulljp

    devnulljp Supporting Member

    Oct 13, 2009
    BC, Canada
    Admin on the D*A*M Forum
    Funny, I sold my Super Bass to a guy who played guitar in an AC/DC cover band.
     
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  17. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    Was he playing rhythm? Malcolm Young used Super Basses, and so does Stevie Young.
     
  18. Adienn7

    Adienn7

    Jan 26, 2007
    The cheapest alternative to a super bass is a bugera 1960.
     
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  19. Martin Beer

    Martin Beer

    Dec 4, 2004
    If you want to keep those original speakers, I suspect a 100 watt Super Bass or a Major might be risky given it was rated for 100 watts and will be getting old.
     
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  20. Bigbri

    Bigbri

    Aug 4, 2015
    Major is 200 watts.
     
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