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Discussion in 'Bassists [BG]' started by red-hot-bassist, Nov 14, 2001.

  1. Nov 14, 2001 #1
    red-hot-bassist

    red-hot-bassist

    Sep 18, 2001
    glasgow
    i was wondering what you guys think makes abetter bass player. someone who can play very fast and with technical brilliance and dosent pause for a second, like a virtuosos fret anky type thing. or do you think that someone who can play with other pople, like a drummer and other mucisians and keep time and make the overall product sound good???


    so whaddayyyayayaya think??
     
  2. Nov 14, 2001 #2
    dirtjumper2001

    dirtjumper2001

    Jul 23, 2001
    Flitwick, Bedfordshire,England
    I would say someone who can play with other members of a band in time and sound good. Its all very well playin fast and technical if you can make it sound good and keep in time with the rest of the band, but if it doesn't go with the band, then its pretty pointless really.
     
  3. Nov 14, 2001 #3
    Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member In Memoriam

    Dec 13, 1999
    Brighton, England, UK, Europe
    I'm thinking - what's this got to do with "homeless shelters"? :confused:

    Also that it's been asked many times before. :rolleyes:
     
  4. Nov 14, 2001 #4
    red-hot-bassist

    red-hot-bassist

    Sep 18, 2001
    glasgow
    well bruce it dosent have much to do with homeless shelters, random words and all that, and whether or not it has been asked before i cannot comment on, i havent been a memeber of TB for that long :)
    i was curious cos there seems to be a big mix of people who play in bands and like people who play in bands and people who are into more virtuosos stuff, i just wondered how they felt about that

    :oops:
     
  5. Nov 14, 2001 #5
    JMX

    JMX Vorsprung durch Technik

    Sep 4, 2000
    Cologne, Germany
    I never understood why people think one way of playing excludes the other...

    Most virtuosos work or worked as sidemen, so they can do both.
     
  6. Nov 14, 2001 #6
    FatFunker

    FatFunker

    Sep 6, 2001
    Rochester, New York
    Man I saw virtuoso homeless shelter and I thought it was a thread about jaco:(
     
  7. Nov 14, 2001 #7
    Bruce Lindfield

    Bruce Lindfield Unprofessional TalkBass Contributor Gold Supporting Member In Memoriam

    Dec 13, 1999
    Brighton, England, UK, Europe
    Eh!?


    exculcate, vosciferous, blinding, machinations, loopy,cough*timewasting*cough, excrement, etc etc.
     
  8. Nov 14, 2001 #8
    Josh Ryan

    Josh Ryan - that dog won't hunt, Monsignor. Supporting Member

    Mar 24, 2001
    God Bless you JMX. I agree with the above. This is the obvious answer, I would think, and hope.
     
  9. Nov 14, 2001 #9
    john turner

    john turner You don't want to do that. Trust me. Staff Member

    Mar 14, 2000
    atlanta ga
    ah, yes, another one of the "if he's a good player he must suck in a band" crowd. :rolleyes:

    here's a little secret - the guys who are the best players usually get paid quite a bit to be guests/sidemen and tour.

    most of the people who can't play with a band can't play. period.
     
  10. Nov 14, 2001 #10
    ThePaste

    ThePaste

    Dec 23, 2000
    West Virginia USA
    Yea like Billy Sheehan and Stu Hamm. Stu Hamm is so good, but he plays sideman to some guitar god :D.
     
  11. Nov 15, 2001 #11
    basstastic

    basstastic

    Sep 3, 2001
    Run far run fast
    I know i keep saying his name but MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING MARK KING Nuff said

    (he was in Level 42)

    (I think he could do both, well he could keep time anyway)

    Peas out
     
  12. Nov 15, 2001 #12
    NewWaveBasser

    NewWaveBasser

    Apr 30, 2001
    Puerto Rico... for now...
    Oh, man this brings back memories of:

    THE 80S METAL GUITAR CONTROVERSY!!!!!!!!!!!

    Oh yes...the Wyngie...Ygwnii...dang!...that Swede dude who played like real fast...oh yes...the Yngwie Malmsteen crowd (play superfast...200,000 notes a second!!!!!!) vs. the "feel" type school of non-metal guitarists led by the likes of Clapton and the Dire Straits dude. That was a war. I know...my bro was into Satriani and Vai and the like...he HATED bluesy guitarists back then...and let's not go into synth techno stuff...ouch!

    This, by the way, crossed over to the bass crowd if you recall. "Uh, dude he is a Billy Sheehan fan...don't mention that Adam Clayton crap"...:rolleyes:

    Since when has speed determined your skills??? I like some punk tunes, but the fact is most (not all) punk is just two or three notes real fast. That's easy pickings...no pun intended.

    And done well within the punk context, mind you.

    I'm no music expert, true. But I always thought that while technique is key, if a bassist can't perform well within a band or plays inappropriate basslines for the music played... being the fastest gun on the Wild West won't cut it. As a listener I expect the bass to fit nicely and sound right... I don't need the "nunuunuununinininunununununu...", just give me that good oomph.

    I personally believe being great (and I know I won't be...I started rather late in life on the bass) includes: playing FAST and SLOW and MIDTEMPO, knowing technique and theory, grooving right along with the band, having a great sense of feel, and balancing it all out. All-around is what I guess I'm trying to say.

    After all, the whole "This bassist or guitarist sux or he rules or holy %$&..." is extremely funny... but pointless...
     
  13. Nov 15, 2001 #13
    cassanova

    cassanova

    Sep 4, 2000
    Florida

    the search functions a beautifull thing :D
     
  14. Nov 15, 2001 #14
    Christopher

    Christopher

    Apr 28, 2000
    New York, NY
    From the front page of this week's Onion:

    Steve Vai Impresses The Hell Out Of Neighborhood Kids

    GLENDALE, CA— Rock guitarist Steve Vai wowed a group of neighborhood children with his spectacular guitar pyrotechnics Monday. "His behind-the-head guitar solo was so wicked," said Jimmy Hetzel, 11, one of six children blown away by Vai's fretboard wizardry. "He also did this thing where he held the guitar between his legs and played it with a bow." The impromptu performance is believed to be the most impressive display of its kind since September 2000, when Joe Satriani "showed off a few licks" at a Southfield, MI, bar mitzvah.