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WARNING: Darrin Huff Basses / Zeller Guitars

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Fuzzbass, Jun 16, 2006.


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  1. Farseer

    Farseer Supporting Member

    Dec 22, 2014
    Parker, Colorado
    Well he could stick is head up a bulls ass, but I think he would want to take his butchers word for it.
     
  2. James Collins

    James Collins

    Mar 25, 2017
    Augusta, GA
     
  3. Reedt2000

    Reedt2000 Supporting Member

    Apr 26, 2017
    Central New Jersey
    I've seen a lot of adult swim shows but not that one. It was pretty trippy :woot:
     
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  4. PhatBasstard

    PhatBasstard Spector Dissector Supporting Member

    Feb 3, 2002
    Las Vegas, NV.
    This thread may have jumped the shark.
     
  5. Reedt2000

    Reedt2000 Supporting Member

    Apr 26, 2017
    Central New Jersey
    Oh well, that's the way the cookie crumbles....
     
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  6. gln1955

    gln1955 Supporting Member

    Aug 25, 2014
    Ohio, USA
    There's definitely been a paradigm shift. Going forward, we need to synergize and take this thread to the next level.
     
  7. /\/\3phist0

    /\/\3phist0 Life: It's sexually transmitted and always fatal Supporting Member

    Went straight of the rails to Hades in a handbasket
     
  8. sleddogn

    sleddogn

    Sep 8, 2013
    Kentucky
    better safe than sorry, and don't huff glue, just don't do prat
     
  9. BAG

    BAG

    May 5, 2014
    New Zealand
    I wouldn't touch these cliche's with a ten foot pole.
     
  10. nomaj

    nomaj

    Apr 2, 2012
    Unlike the "Reefer Madness" thread on Band Management. On that particular thread, a mod said that the thread had "... definitely run it's course." (sic)
     
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  11. DrMole

    DrMole Supporting Member

    Someone actually listened to the management consultants:dead:;)
     
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  12. /\/\3phist0

    /\/\3phist0 Life: It's sexually transmitted and always fatal Supporting Member

    [​IMG]
     
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  13. Disclaimer : In the text below my main focus is the bass it self and not all the issues that were part of the process of getting it. I am one of the very few people on the planet that have one of these and not much can be found about them online. Hundreds of pages have been written about Darrin and his issues in order for some context there is some quick run through of the waiting period and my way of getting the bass to me. If I were to give a detailed write up I'm pretty sure no one would have the patience to read through it (this is long enough), also sorry for my late post on here, I have been busy and not read the pages after page 173 .......enjoy :)

    What is the longest you have waited on something ?

    16 years ago as a young man (yes I suppose I'm middle aged now...) I ordered my first (and only) custom bass.
    At that point I had been introduced to the high end bass world via a superb Rbass (that I still have and love), I thought it would be superb to have a bass made that could act as a sibling to the Rbass.
    Having just entered the job market as an apprentice I was not a big earner so not having any idea what custom instruments cost (I bought my Rbass second hand), I made a shortlist of builders that I thought made superior instruments but might not be overly expensive.
    I then proceeded to find out the base pricing these builders offered. After wading through the info there was one up and coming builder who I thought was both very helpful in his replies and had very fair pricing... that young man was Darrin Huff. After some design parameters of the bass were set and the price was agreed upon, my first couple of paychecks went into paying the bass in full and then it was just a matter of waiting.....
    The waiting part was difficult, I will not go into all the ups and downs of that journey but after (I think) a few years of waiting I read a thread here on TB were a man had waited 10 years to receive his Ken Bebensee bass and I thought to myself "Tha
    nk god I didn't decide upon a Bebensee" (Bebensee had been on my shortlist), well little did I know!
    The years passed and I had written the bass off completely, there was no way I was getting it after all these years, the Dhuff bass became a regular punchline in jokes made by friends and family (nobody expected me ever to get the bass).
    Through the years I had decided to keep contact with Darrin even though I was certain that I would never get my bass, if by doing so I would only remind him that I and others were owed instruments.
    Then at one point pictures started coming my way of a neck, and a body and so on, and oh how pretty the bass was going to be !
    A couple of years ago the bass was ready for finish to be applied. A year after that the bass was to be shipped, and in August 2018 the bass was completed.
    In December 2017 I had gotten a shipping quote for 230usd for ship from Spokane to Iceland, in January 2018 the price had gone up to 900usd for the same service for some odd reason.
    For those reasons I had the bass sent to a friend who lives in PEI in Canada, that was 125usd.
    In July of 2018 we decided to take a trip to PEI to visit our friends, at that point there was hope that the bass would be shipped to me while I was in Canada. We just missed that deadline, and the bass was sent to Canada in August 2018.
    For a year the bass sat in its case in my friends home office untouched (I think my friend opened it once for me to see via fb video).
    On August 7 I picked my friend and his family up at the Airport here in Iceland.
    My Dhuff was finally in my hands.

    At one point in time I had decided that the bass would probably only be a wallflower, that its sound and playability simply could not match the look of the instrument in the pictures.
    When I took the bass out of its bag(I had my friend change the case to a gigbag so he could bring it as carry on) the detail of Darrin's work fully struck me. Seeing pics of a bass is one thing, but inspecting it in detail in person is a completely different experience.
    The detail in Darrin's work is amazing ! Although there is nothing that warrant's taking 15 years to build a bass there is no way I could ever have afforded to commission a bass with all the frills this bass has. Saying that Darrin pays attention to detail is an understatement, the detail in this build is nowhere short of amazing. The little things like the truss rod cover being flush with the headstock and using the headstock veneer to make the cover, lams on the headstock, pickup covers, control cav. cover, etc. are amazing.
    I'll try to have some decent pics below for you guys.
    Looks and details aside what has struck me most about this bass was the playability and sound.
    The bass was setup a year ago and then traveled across N.America and then took a flight over to Iceland and it still plays like a dream.
    How does it sound you ask ? It sounds amazing, it's that simple. The bass sounds a bit like a cross between a J and a P(and quite flexible) (The pickups in the bass are Nordtrand Big Singles and the bass is passive (no preamp)).
    I wanted a shorter scale and decided to go for 33'', I did think that maybe I was sacrificing the sound of the low B by going for that short a scale, but I was wrong, the B on this bass is tight and clear, you might even call it piano like.

    I've tried to cut this as short as I can (believe me I could have rambled on for pages upon pages here). So in a summary Darrin's basses don't only look good they play and sound amazing. Would I go through all this again? No, I probably wouldn't, do I regret it now that I have the bass ? No I don't.
    I have my opinions on Darrin Huff and the way he has treated us (his customers) and then I have an opinion on the instrument he made for me the two are not the same.
    This is a bass that will be with me until I leave this world, I am glad that I did not demand a refund with force.

    Anyway thanks for reading my rant and I hope you enjoyed some of it and the pics that follow.
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  14. DrMole

    DrMole Supporting Member

    The artistry and execution is phenomenal.
    Speaking only to the instrument; just amazing.

    I followed your part of this thread through every post and hoped that you received the bass after getting the shipping info.

    Glad to hear after all this time that what you finally received is so satisfying!

    Enjoy, the tuning knobs and pick ups alone...wow.
     
  15. DDXdesign

    DDXdesign formerly 'jammadave' Supporting Member

    Oct 15, 2003
    Wash DC metro area
    I am floored by your bass, @Kristjankisi (but also your patience!)

    See, that bass above is where the anger kind of shifts back to disappointment and sadness. It's sad and disappointing that the guy who can do the phenomenal craft we see above has been so horrible in managing the time and money people trusted him with.

    And I say this as an artist that has very occasionally let projects flounder for long enough that it's embarrassing to try to get back on track with the client, myself. It happens. It's what you do when that happens that counts.
     
    Last edited: Aug 26, 2019
  16. Gunga Din

    Gunga Din

    Jun 22, 2018
    What a work of art. I can't begin to analyse what's made Darrin go off the rails but the man is clearly a genius when it comes to concept right through to the finished article.

    Darrin: you're capable of getting the backlog completed. And more. Do us all proud and, most importantly, yourself. Godspeed.
     
  17. Seeing a completed bass delivered gives me a sliver of hope. I still contact Darrin every few months and he is always optimistic of getting my bass done (last summer there was even talk of him shipping a bass before my visit to family in the States, but that didn't materialise). I'll keep some hope alive and report back here is I ever take delivery!
     
  18. mellowinman

    mellowinman Free Man

    Oct 19, 2011
    Minneapolis
    This is what I have been waiting for. I'm extremely happy for you. EXTREMELY happy.
     
  19. Gunga Din

    Gunga Din

    Jun 22, 2018
    Fuzzbass is quiet. Is he next in line??
     
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  20. Fuzzbass

    Fuzzbass P5 with overdrive Gold Supporting Member

    Thanks for the laugh, I needed that. :thumbsup: FWIW my prediction is that I'll be last in line, or close to it. Mostly because my bass is little more than a concept at this point, whereas there are a number of other builds that are farther along.

    I sent my congratulations to Kristjan via Facebook weeks ago. His gorgeous pictures are the best possible explanation of why so many of us trusted an up-and-coming luthier with our money even though he had very little build history. It was a calculated risk, for sure.
     

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