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Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Fuzzbass, Jun 16, 2006.
No light. No tunnel. Just a bottomless hole. No basses for those he robbed. Not now. Not ever.
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Hand Job String Winders
Dewey, Cheatham, & Howe
Good grief, I come in for my bi-yearly check of this thread, and not only has he still not delivered an instrument, he's making boutique string winders instead.
You couldn't make this stuff up. I feel like I'm now exploring new and exciting levels of incredulity that I did not previously believe possible.
So much time, so little bass...
Pickup? Maybe someone who's owed a bass could order one of these things and go to... enquire how things are going.
Well that's good news. Why would you make a Facebook post reminding people to pay their orders? Why would you build a bunch of winders for customers that hadn't paid yet?
The only logical answer I have is...trying to get a couple people to pay for the same thing.
ELoI has a new album coming out. It was supposed to drop last year but got delayed. It'll be out in December for sure...just not sure what year
What, there’s 33 or so winders there — how much income could be derived from that? Super business plan there.
As long as we're doing photo analysis, I note that the tuner wrench heads and the handles don't have the same wood/color distribution. There are 4 really dark heads but no really dark handles. There are 4 ivory colored handles but no ivory colored heads. All the completed examples show uniform construction, but I guess he'd been within his rights to just slap random pairs together and call them designer winders.
Sanding and oiling the first batch of winders...
He should have been using that time on sanding and oiling a bass neck.
...or some yo-yos.
Incredulous Incredulity...what a great name for a band...
General question here:
Suppose Darren actually finishes some basses; Would you even want it at this point? Do you think after all this time he's going to put the love and detail into an instrument to have it be something worth owning?
Would you proudly go on stage with something bearing his name?
I believe that's a variation on a bass clef symbol, to make it look like a "D".
I've been back and forth. Never say never, but at this point I don't expect to get my bass, so if I did it would be a windfall of sorts, so I guess I'd be happy about it. I'd play it, and there would definitely be a story to tell when asked. A very long story.
P.S. One certainty I have about Darrin Huff is that he's a perfectionist. That's part of the problem.
Please don't insult us perfectionists
Yes we can be a pain to deal with, but he's something totally else. I just haven't figured out what yet.
Oh, and perfectionists usually don't play the "woe is me" card, we're too busy being perfectionists. He's too busy "not" working on basses and making every excuse in the world for it. Like now, now he's making string winders instead of working on basses. In the time it's taken him to make all the string winders he finally posted pics of the other day I bet he could have gotten at least one neck done. But he chose to make winders instead.
I can't tell you how many times I have started something just to start over on it, but the point is, I was working on it the whole time until it was finished. He's too busy doing whatever it is he does, but it's not working on basses, obviously.
I tell you what his biggest problem is. He doesn't want to work and make basses that aren't going to make him any money because he got that money a long time ago and that money is gone. He sure had no problem making a guitar or two or three this last year, why? Because they weren't paid for and he could sell them to put money in his pocket.
If you gave him the needed materials and components and said here, "Make me a bass with this, I'll give you 3 grand when you're done and not a penny sooner." I bet it would be finished in 6 months or less. In the meantime he would still not be working on basses that are already paid for.
That's the problem, he doesn't want to work on stuff owed because it doesn't do a thing for his wallet in the here and now. To him it's like working for free. And even though he's the one that created that mess to begin with, he's not going to do it. He will make every excuse in the world to put it to the side and say he'll get to it while he continues to find ways to keep money in his pocket. He even did it with 20 - 40 dollar yo yos. Doesn't matter what he makes. If he gets the money before it's made and he doesn't finish it before the money for it runs out, he's going to move on to something else. He's been doing it for two decades now.
Obviously perfectionism isn't his biggest problem. I said that it's part of the problem, when addressing the question of whether he might half-ass the overdue basses (paraphrasing).
I am convinced that Huff builds what he wants to build and when he has satiated his urge to build whatever the current thing is, he moves on to something else that satisfies his itch. Now that he’s gotten those guitars out of his system, he’s moved on to string winders. He most likely won’t return to guitars and most assuredly won’t return to making basses. It’s not about money or time regarding past orders. It’s his need to selfishly satisfy himself. Building the Zeller guitars proves this.
I would imagine one would have to force him to finish basses like Jesse Pinkman was forced to make meth at the end of Breaking Bad.