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Was a VT-22 EVER made as a head only?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Arnie, Nov 28, 2013.

  1. Arnie


    May 14, 2005
    Kingston, NY
    Guy has one listed as a head, but I believe it is cut down as I don't think they ever made them as a head only. The head version would be a V-4?
  2. beans-on-toast

    beans-on-toast Supporting Member

    Aug 7, 2008
    The V4B is the same amp without the reverb. I don't believe that there was a VT-22 head.
  3. Primakurtz

    Primakurtz Registered Nihilist Supporting Member

    Nov 23, 2011
    Denver, Colorado
    Correct. The VT-22 was a V4 in a 2x12 combo cab. If you've ever lifted one, you'll know why they were often re-housed as a head.
  4. They are identical as far as the amp goes. The plate on the back of the amp chassis says "VT-22/V-4" on it regardless of whether it was put in a head or a combo at the factory. The face plate specifies which but is often worn off. So, if the face plate says VT-22, there are three possibilities: 1) it's the amp out of a VT-22 and has been put in a head box or 2) the combo cabinet was cut down to a head or 3), and least likely, the face plate has been changed.
  5. Arnie


    May 14, 2005
    Kingston, NY
    All in all I guess $500 is a fair price for a "V-4" however will never have vintage resale value..
  6. 1958Bassman


    Oct 20, 2007
    I have a VT-212 cabinet that has two 12" drivers and a port, which was the matching piece.
  7. If you want the sound of the V4 series who cares about "vintage resale"? :D ;)
  8. beans-on-toast

    beans-on-toast Supporting Member

    Aug 7, 2008
    It isn't uncommon to find VT-22's installed in a head cabinets. Fliptops sells cabinets for for a VT-22.
  9. JimmyM


    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    That's a good price IMHO, even if it's a rehoused VT-22. And it's not like the price of vintage V4's and V4B's has been setting the vintage world on fire.
  10. coreyfyfe

    coreyfyfe Supporting Member

    Nov 19, 2007
    boston, ma
    Looks like it was either rehoused or has a replacement faceplate. Not uncommon, the combos were heavy as hell. The price is good, keep in mind if you buy it that an amp of that age may need a cap job and/or other maintenance work in the near future (and my be part of the reason for the sale in some cases).
  11. That's a later version, not one of the more desirable earlier versions. From around 1980 or thereabouts.
  12. Rockbobmel

    Rockbobmel Supporting Member

    Yup - head.

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  13. lowend1


    Feb 15, 2005
    I've seen that one on CL - I'm in NJ also, and I think it's overpriced (and poorly presented to boot). Considering the cosmetic shape, I would be wary of what's inside. If a V4B is what you really want, hold out for a good one. The V4/VT22 is very similar, but there is also a touch more grind, which may or may not be what you're after. I have one of each, and all things being equal, I prefer the V4B.
  14. The schematics changed a little over the years but the only difference between a VT-22/V4 and the V4-B is a cap or two in front end that slightly limits the low end. Any more or less grind between any two amps would be due to something else like tubes.
  15. By the late 70's, though, the schematics had changed drastically. The master distortion design ca. 1980 has nothing in common with the ca. 1971 design. Diode clipping on the front end, different PI tube, different power and output transformers.
  16. I stand corrected. Good to know, as I am only intimately familiar with mine - a 1973 VT-22 converted to a V4-B.
  17. BTW, do we know how to tell the earlier more desirable ones apart at a glance? Is it as simple as no distortion knob on the V4? But what about on the V4B?
  18. coreyfyfe

    coreyfyfe Supporting Member

    Nov 19, 2007
    boston, ma
    Distortion models were released in 76. They're pretty close in design, but yes there are some differences.
  19. coreyfyfe

    coreyfyfe Supporting Member

    Nov 19, 2007
    boston, ma
    The "more desirable" ones tend to be the pre-75 models with the metal knobs, black square graphics, and metal switches instead of white plastic.