Wasted trip to guitar center

Discussion in 'Off Topic [BG]' started by fadlan bassman, Sep 18, 2002.

  1. fadlan bassman

    fadlan bassman

    Oct 23, 2001
    I went to Houston to see my dad on Monday, and since i was in from Austin i wanted to see what kind of selection they had in the "Big City". I called them up and asked if they carry Zon, the phone guy did not what a Zon was. Not a big deal since it is a higher end bass and not that well known to none bass players. I figured what the hell i just go look (no one ever came to the phone to talk) for myself and play a few. When i got there i was pretty much the same a in Austin; musical instruments everywhere everything kinda hectic. I went right over to the bass section and :eek: they had 2 Pedulla's and one MTD and 6 Warwick as far as upper end bass goes, (MTD upper end, or basses i have not tried). I asked for some assistance since all the basses were like 3 stories high and this lady comes over and asks what I’d like to see. I think; cool i would like to see that Pedulla 5 string there and she did not what that was either :rolleyes:. When i tried to plug it in, she did not know how to work the Ampeg “selecta” cab/amp (which i had to show explain to her). Once i got it playing i was not impressed with the fretboard at all, it was all shiny and coated. I think maybe the batteries (active?) in the p/j style Barts were drained because i got not get any good tone. She kept asking me if i was going to trade in my other basses to get this one? I asked if she had any basses with EMG's and of course she had no idea what i was talking about. I then asked to see a Yamaha and she gets down a warwick streamer:( . It can't be that hard to find someone who knows about basses (at all!) in Houston to work for them?
    I really felt bad because she had to get this small ladder out to get the basses down, and i just wanted to check em out, she thought i was going to drop 2500 on a fretless pedulla. All in all my time/ trip to the GC was wasted. By the way this is the one on Westheimer and Voss. I should have gone to the other store where they actually carried Zon.
  2. I pretty much live across the street from the GC at Westheimer. I haven't been there in a while. It's always the same stuff though. You've got the same old Fenders. Now, I really would like to try out a Roscoe Beck, or a Victor Bailey, or a FMT, but no such luck. You've got a couple Pedullas, about 6 Warwicks like you said. A couple of Musicmans. I actually liked the atmosphere of the GC in Austin better. If you go to Mars Music, again it's pretty much the same, but you will see a couple of Moduluses (Moduli?) - one of them being the Flea bass. We need some more diversity down here! Seriously!!!:mad:
  3. Wow, an MTD-I'm impressed. Our store selection includes a few warwicks, three pedullas, a conkling GT-7 (dead strings), 4 'rays, some ibanezes and some schecters, and of course-fenders. Not too bad, but not too impressive either, but the bass cat up here really knows his stuff so I like to go there and mellow with him for a while.
  4. Isn't Guitar Resurrection in Austin? Judging by what they show on the Net, they have some pretty sweet used inventory.
  5. fadlan bassman

    fadlan bassman

    Oct 23, 2001
    Only problem is they are VERY proud of their merchandise.
  6. LiquidMidnight


    Dec 25, 2000
    Man, I would be happy with the bass selection that you guys have. My local music stores carry Fender, Epiphone/Gibson, Ibanez, Yamaha, and Washburn. You might see the odd Rickenbacker or Tobias every once in a while. Of course, then you have a a lot of cheaper brands like Samick. Amplifications is pretty much limited to Ampeg, Peavey, Fender, and Crate.
  7. ldiezman


    Jul 11, 2001
    I went to the "new" GC in charlotte last year for the first time.. no one knew anything about anything.. so i just helped myself..

    Then i went to the BIG GC in atlanta about 4 months ago.. It was nice.. They had so many nice basses there.... foderas, Eshenbaugh, lakland, pedullas, ken smith basses.. I played them all.. It was a nice 3 hours spent.. they guy helping was pretty nice too.. i didn't guy anything that day though.. but that was a pretty nice experience.. the only thing that would have made it nicer would have been to see JT walk in there with his 7-string double neck strapped to his back.. :) :D
  8. yeah the guys at guitar resurection are complete a$$holes. they are a bunch of dorky guitar players who think they are way better than they realy are and who wont give you the time of day. and they are way too protective of thier murchandise its rediculous. i only go in there for strings and picks for my acoustic guitar. realy not a good place to go. but our gc isnt that bad and its only 5 minn from my house. :p
  9. Hey Brett(AM)!
    Our GC(s) didn't use to be that way. A few years back they even had a few Zons, but Rockley (where I bought my Zons) is rightfully the only Zon distributor in the area.
    The GC in westminster usually has a few pedullas and such. I've seen Alembics and Smiths at the one on Colorado Blvd., but not lately. Warwicks, Fenders, iBEENhads, MM's and lessers are the main brands at any of them. I think the Westminster one is the best out of the three in the Denver area. They have the nicest Fenders, sometimes a Ric or two, Pedullas from MVP's to Raptures, Great used basses, etc.

  10. Unfortunatley, GC works off what sells. No body buys basses. We sell maybe 20 basses a month, while the guitars are flying off the walls.

    Given that, I think our store has a prety good collection. Currently we are stocking new models of Fender, Ibanez, Warwick, Pedulla, Yamaha, Schecter, and Spector. Our used stuff includes more Fender, ESP, Rickenbacher, Tobias, Jackson, Alembic, Modulus, Aria, and som funky looking thing that has no manufactures logo anywhere. It looks kinda like a Stratacoustic, but it's bass, 5 string, with electronics. Bizzarre little creation.

    Rock on
  11. you know im kind of disapointed. i thought this was gonna be a funny story about fadlan bassman getting wasted and causing trouble at his local gc. :D

    especialy since its the gc in my town
  12. rickbass

    rickbass Supporting Member

    Picking up on what Eric says, realize - a major, if not THE MAJOR reason, GC can stay so competitive is that they contract with makers to do production runs of the instruments they want.

    In other words, they may send a list of the basses and their spec's, (based on what GC thinks will sell) that they want from Fender. Fender will schedule an afternoon for a production run of basses made just for GC. Since all markets are not alike, GC may send that all-koa Victor Bailey Jazz to a store where the market skews towards higher-priced Fenders and that godawful Mark Hoppus bass to a market where the market is young as less affluent.

    As for the salesperson not knowing what a "Pedulla" is - that just a lack of sales training. They probably don't sell many Pedulla's at all as Eric says. GC's product- knowledge training dollars are better spent on making sure their salespeople know which PRS the guitarist in P.O.D. uses, not which Zon is the closest to Michael Manring's Zon Hyperbass.

    Undoubtedly, this is just part of why it is so satisfying to deal with stores like Bass Central and Bass Northwest who can talk "bass gear" all day.
  13. BigBohn


    Sep 29, 2001
    WPB, Florida
    Are there actually 'productive' trips to guitar center?

    I think not.
  14. BWB


    Aug 30, 2000
    Knoxville TN
    Uh, newsflash, that's the way it is at most every
    music store. There *are* exceptions, but ever
    since this wonderous thing called the Internet
    appeared on my radar screen I don't even get
    strings at the local store any more. It's not price
    why I shop like that...it's so I don't have to put up
    with attitude from a bunch of jerkoffs making $8
    an hour for a living and think it's special they
    work in a music store.

    Guitar Center has figured out that the only way
    to make it 'pay' with employees like this is to price
    the gear so low that they can continue to attract
    business DESPITE the attitude from the employees.
    The 'friendly local dealer with good service' is
    a rare bird indeed but if you *do* find one, support
    the hell out of them. In the city I live in (200,000
    population) there ain't one.
  15. BWB thanks for the news flash:rolleyes:

    i was talking about guitar resurection whitch is a very small store in central austin. i was sharing fadlan's opinions about thier attitude(because hes been there also). and when i described who worked there i was describing specific people who own the place and whom ive met on multiple ocasions. i then went on too add that guitar center here in austin is ok from what i can tell but ive only been there like 3 times. its further north close to my place so i might go there more often for convenience.

    furthermore i also pointed out the crude service of guitar resurection because most of the music stores in austin have fairly decent service.

    anyways read my post more carefuly next time before saying little things like newsflash that sort of got on my nerves. my quote and your post dont match sorry

    anyways...wanna go get a beer:D ;)

  16. Well stated. And now it appears it be getting worse, as GC is now large enough for a Distribution Center!! Yay!!:rolleyes:

    Our DC seems to not notice what each store has in its inventory. Yesterday we got 5 boxes of stuff from them. They sent us 12 cases of Ernie Ball strings. 12!! We already have another 35, plus the strings on the wall. WE DON'T NEED MORE!! The only thing they sent us that we REALLY needed was some Martin Acoustics in 11 gauge.

    The major problem is that the DC really doesn't look at what we are selling, so there is a good chance that the higher-end basses might be dissapearing from GC walls and shelves over the next couple of years.

    Tis a sad thing.:(

    Rock on
  17. DigMe


    Aug 10, 2002
    Waco, TX
    Even better is Austin Bass Traders (always have an ad in the back of Bass Player). You have to make an appointment to go but the guy carries only high quality and when you go it's just you playing what you want and checking out what you want. Purty cool.

    brad cook
  18. DigMe


    Aug 10, 2002
    Waco, TX

    That GC varies in stock and the only reason really to go there aside from the usual is that sometimes they get some decent used stuff in. Last time I was there they had a used Stewart World 2.1, a used 77 Fender Jazz, which actually turned out to be in pretty bad condition, a used MTD Kingston..not really that special but only notable because they were asking more for it used than new ones sell for!, etc... I have seen Fodera's and other high ends at that one in the past.

    If you go again in the future and want to talk to someone cool then ask for Shaggy. He's not a bass specialist but he's a real cool guy who knows enough to help you out.

    I had a great experience at the Austin GC. There's a really cool guy who works there who's kinda tall and lanky with brown curly hair, maybe in his late 30's. He was really awesome, didn't try any hard sell techniques and was no bs. As I was about to leave after it was established between us that they didn't really have what I was looking for he was like "You can't leave without playing something though! That'd be a wasted trip. Pull down one of those Pedulla's or something and jam for a few minutes!" Knowing that I wasn't going to buy anything that day...after he set me up with a chord on a big mesa rig he just walked off and let me be. Cool guy. Makes me want to give him some business.

    BTW - if anyone is in Dallas anytime soon the GC on Central Expressway has some nice used stuff. WHen I was there recently I saw and played on Lakland, US made Spector, Surine, Roscoe etc... There was this bald british wanker in there though that was full of crap and kept contradicting himself in the things he was saying. He finally let me be. They also have a bunch of vintage basses if you're into that party.

    brad cook