Weird idea coming together: Pino Sklar on a Hoppus body

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by TimBosby, Jul 23, 2013.

  1. TimBosby

    TimBosby Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 19, 2004
    Omaha, NE, USA
    This is what my brain does when I'm sick as a dog and cannot sleep.

    OK, who am I kidding, my brain does this all the time :)

    My friend Dave planted this idea to build a Leland Sklar inspired reverse P-bass in my head. Which is cool, but I really like the classic fiesta red / tort / rosewood (Pino P bass) color combo.

    I love the idea of a double P pickup, always have, and the inverted P is intriguing. So then I was thinking, where can I get a Fender body that will fit a tort guard with inverted P pickup rout? Well, the Fender Mark Hoppus signature bass of course! I could honestly care less about Blink 182 but this bass has some features I like: inverted P, string through body bridge, etc.

    So...see the attached TERRIBLE mockup and try to envision it in fiesta red with EMGs instead of Duncans.

    So here is the tentative plan and associated costs:

    -Obtain Hoppus body - either get a beat used one and sell everything until it's "just the wood" or find an unloaded body: $100-$200
    -Have finish professionally stripped: $50ish
    -MJT professional nitro faded fiesta red/coral/salmon finish $275
    -MIJ RI '62 Fender Jazz neck, vint tint & rosewood: $225 (already have)
    -Hoppus multi ply tort pickguard from WD or Chandler: $100
    -Side Jack rout $25
    -Pickup routing $90
    -Battery box routing $45
    -Active EMGs $125 (already have)
    -Hoppus string through body bridge $45 - assuming one does not come with the body
    -Misc other stuff - shipping, small pats, etc: $100 - $150
    -Fender case $125

    Total $1305 to $1455

    Pricy, yes, but this is estimating everything on the high side, and I had budgeted about $1800 for my next weird idea.

    And before anyone says it, no, it would not be cheaper to do everything from Warmoth - I already priced that out.

    And no, I am not going to strip/finish myself - been there done that, ReRanch has a lot of my money and I spent many hours failing at that whole process and quickly learned you can pay other people to do a better job.
     

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  2. TimBosby

    TimBosby Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 19, 2004
    Omaha, NE, USA
    OK I lied, I could maybe get a Warmoth ash body for $200 with no pickup routs and save myself the cost of the stripping charge, battery box routing, and side input jack drilling.
     
  3. TimBosby

    TimBosby Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 19, 2004
    Omaha, NE, USA
    OK a little over $1400 with Warmoth body, but I also threw in an EMG BTC system preamp.
     
  4. bassvirtuoso

    bassvirtuoso My God, it's full of chrome!

    Feb 28, 2006
    Nebraska
    MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Also, don't use the Hoppus body, the original route won't be in the correct spot you need it to be.
     
  5. TimBosby

    TimBosby Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 19, 2004
    Omaha, NE, USA
    The original pickup rout or control cavity?

    I am actually thinking Warmoth ash now. Just emailed them to see if they can custom rout. But they would need to use the Hoppus pickguard as a cookie cutter template.
     
  6. bassvirtuoso

    bassvirtuoso My God, it's full of chrome!

    Feb 28, 2006
    Nebraska
    I'm not 100% sure that the pickup route on that Hoppus is still close enough to the neck....IF they chose the regular P spot for that pickup route, you'll still be a little off.
     
  7. gunlak

    gunlak

    Nov 24, 2009
    Philippines
    here is what it'll look like when the E and A coil is in the traditional P position but the other is reversed.

    [​IMG]

    it's an SX btw.. thought I'll post it here for visual reference.
     
  8. jamminology101

    jamminology101

    Aug 22, 2012
    Indianapolis In
    Endorsing Artist: Glockenklang
    The hoppus one always baffled me because they say on fenders website u get more snarling lows and tamer highs but really the pickup that covers the E&A strings is on the same center line as the old D&G so u end up getting bassier hollow lows and ultra tame topend...kind of a lose-lose position I think. The6 should have kept the D&G string position and moved the E&A forward .
     
  9. TimBosby

    TimBosby Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 19, 2004
    Omaha, NE, USA
    I now see what Dave (bassvirtuoso) is saying - this whole inception was planted in my brain by him anyway, lol.

    See the attached crude mockup I cannibalized from Warmoth's site. I very crudely took MS Paint and made a P and J body the same picture size. Flipped the pickups, figured out where on the J body a traditional P rout would be, and then put one flipped pickup above it and one directly below it. The bottom one is close, but it's gonna run into the J pickguard/control plate unless it is moved down a little bit and/or the pickguard is modified. My "bridge pickup" is even a little hair too far to the right, but even moving it left a bit...bam, pickguard/control plate
     

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  10. TimBosby

    TimBosby Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 19, 2004
    Omaha, NE, USA
    The best solution may to be to do a rear routed body, STILL do a pickguard though it would have to be heavily customized and be something like an Alleva Coppolo Jazz.. see below. Some people hate that kind of free-floating knob train, but I kinda dig it.

    IMG_8565.jpg
     
  11. verycoolname

    verycoolname

    Jan 28, 2013
    Pittsburgh
    Looking forward to the build thread on this...looks really unique/awesome.
     
  12. TimBosby

    TimBosby Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 19, 2004
    Omaha, NE, USA
    At this point, it may be too complicated.

    I'd need a rear-routed ash Warmoth J body, MJT fiesta red finish, Alleva Coppolo style tort guard, a bunch of money, and a lot of patience. Lol.
     
  13. bassvirtuoso

    bassvirtuoso My God, it's full of chrome!

    Feb 28, 2006
    Nebraska
    That's "Tim Code" for "it probably won't happen" or "I'll change my mind/design five more times".
     
  14. TimBosby

    TimBosby Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 19, 2004
    Omaha, NE, USA
    It's true. I'm trying to cram as many bass ideas into one bass as possible while simultaneously keep it uncomplicated and use as many stock parts as possible. Mission: impossible. :help:
     
  15. gunlak

    gunlak

    Nov 24, 2009
    Philippines
    for the hoppus, they moved the whole P pickup about 1/4" from the traditional P position.
     
  16. TimBosby

    TimBosby Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 19, 2004
    Omaha, NE, USA
    Yeah I've pretty much abandoned the "Hoppus" part of this equation. Still considering the rest. Maybe.
     
  17. Nev375

    Nev375

    Nov 2, 2010
    Missouri
    Why not get a blacktop jazz and just invert the neck pickup?
     
  18. TimBosby

    TimBosby Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 19, 2004
    Omaha, NE, USA
    Ideally both pickups should be inverted.

    This may work yet, though, might have scored a super cheap Squier on Craigslist just to test this out on. Already have a nice MIJ reissue neck on the way.
     
  19. That's incorrect. Here is a P and J route in their traditional locations.
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  20. TimBosby

    TimBosby Gold Supporting Member

    Dec 19, 2004
    Omaha, NE, USA
    Flipped the pickups, figured out where on the J body a traditional P rout would be, and then put one flipped pickup above it and one directly below it. ;)