Well I guess I really screwed up this time - truss rod content and a question or two

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  1. smurfco

    smurfco

    Mar 16, 2007
    Norwalk, CT
    So a few weeks ago I got a really great 1982 Greco PMB-800 - neck through. The truss rod was maxed out and the board still had a little bit too much relief. I should have left it alone though - it was pretty playable - but I was going to try the washer trick so I backed the nut off. (Even though it's a Ric copy it has a single truss rod.)

    Well, I put the nut back on sans washer (I realized after the fact that I didn't have one) and I don't know how it happened but I tighten the nut down and the relief is nowhere near where it was. So I think maybe I threaded the thing on wrong, and I try to unscrew it... and here's where it gets real bad... the nut isn't coming off and I can feel the entire rod (or at least part of it, if I snapped it) rotating around. I can't get it tightened and I can't take it off. I removed the bass nut (the slotted string holder nut I mean) to see if I could get more grip to back the truss nut out but to no avail. I didn't hear any wood cracking or splintering or anything like that so hopefully the inside structure of the neck is sound - I just think the truss rod snapped or became unmoored or something.

    This is seriously bumming me out. The bass isn't worth a ton, maybe about $800, but it sounded great and felt awesome. It had a little bit of buzz I was trying to dial out, but as I said I should have left well enough alone as it's now unplayable.

    My questions are - does this sound like it can be fixed, given that the bass is neck-through?

    If it can be fixed, who's the best person in the CONUS that I could send it off to? I am in the NYC metro area but have not found anyone around here I would truss (get it?) with this job. I know the bass isn't super valuable but unless it's ridiculously expensive I'd like to have it fixed (along with a good setup and fret level). Thanks in advance for any tips or tricks.
     
  2. Stumbo

    Stumbo Guest

    Feb 11, 2008
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  3. Beej

    Beej

    Feb 10, 2007
    Vancouver Island
    What's ridiculously expensive to you? This could be a $400 job depending on whether or not the fretboard needs to come off and some refinishing needs to occur. The neck through aspect increases potential time spent and potential pitfalls that need to be addressed.
     
  4. smurfco

    smurfco

    Mar 16, 2007
    Norwalk, CT
    $400 would be expensive but still worth doing IMO. I really like the bass. I'd say once it hits $500 or more we'd be getting into the "not worth it" range.
     
  5. smurfco

    smurfco

    Mar 16, 2007
    Norwalk, CT
    Update - I was able to get the adjustment nut off. It seems like the entire rod was turning within the channel - is that possible? Shouldn't the other end of the rod be anchored somewhere?

    Thanks in advance for any help or advice, even if it's just a rec on where to send it. (Don't say dumpster)
     
  6. Jeff Scott

    Jeff Scott Rickenbacker guru..........

    Apr 11, 2006
    On a real Rick the rod can easily be slid out of the channel. Can't you do the same with your copy?
     

  7. Yes the rod should be anchored at the other end. If the whole thing is just turning in there then it has come loose from that anchor. Repair depends on the type of rod and how it was installed in the neck. Could still mean the fretboard has to come off.
     
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  8. smurfco

    smurfco

    Mar 16, 2007
    Norwalk, CT
    It does not appear so, no.

    Bummer. Thanks for the info.

    Anybody have a good reco on who'd be well suited to evaluate? NYC area would be great but I can ship too.

    Thanks again everyone.
     
  9. Try 812 Guitars. He’s in Connecticut. Greenwich.
     
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  10. smurfco

    smurfco

    Mar 16, 2007
    Norwalk, CT
    Thanks! I dropped it off there on Saturday. Chris is quite a character but based on some of the other work in his shop I felt good leaving it with him. The fretboard will indeed need to be removed. I told him to go for it. In for a penny, in for a pound I suppose.
     
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  11. sissy kathy

    sissy kathy Back to Bass-ics Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 21, 2014
    Arbutus, MD
    A whole pound? Do you realize how much wood that is? 16 ounces, geez.
     
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  12. No problem. Glad I could help.
     
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