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What bass is foundational to the Smashing Pumpkins sound?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by LotusCarsLtd52, Apr 19, 2010.


  1. LotusCarsLtd52

    LotusCarsLtd52

    Dec 6, 2009
    Whatever bass I upgrade to I am (like I mentioned elsewhere on here) looking to produce a Smashing Pumpkins/Gary Numan tone.

    Does anyone happen to know what bass Billy Corgan/D'arcy Wretsky largely used on their recordings, especially Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie? That's a good example of the tone I seek.
     
  2. Jazzcat

    Jazzcat

    Jan 20, 2009
    Titusville, FL
    D'arcy used a Fender. 90% sure it was a pbass.
     
  3. LotusCarsLtd52

    LotusCarsLtd52

    Dec 6, 2009
    Thank you.

    Question 2: P pup, or P/J pup?
     
  4. shaolinwhat

    shaolinwhat

    Jun 5, 2005
    Ohio
    D'arcy definitely played jazzes and p's live, siamese dream sounds like a precision all the way through from what I remember.
     
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  5. Jazzcat

    Jazzcat

    Jan 20, 2009
    Titusville, FL
    As Lotus alluded to:

    Billy played bass for the studio recording of Siamese Dream.

    D'arcy played bass for the studios of Gish, MCIS, Adore, and Machina I.
     
  6. LotusCarsLtd52

    LotusCarsLtd52

    Dec 6, 2009
    That's what I was thinking myself but I wasn't sure...not bright enough to be a Jazz bass on Siamese. What a fun little album!
     
  7. shaolinwhat

    shaolinwhat

    Jun 5, 2005
    Ohio
    Hah yes a fun little album, a classic!

    That tone to me is just a really nicely dialed in P Bass, not overly dirty and just bright enough.
     
  8. Double Agent

    Double Agent

    Mar 10, 2006
    Lakeland, FL
    The P-bass tone on Siamese Dream is one of my favorite rock bass tones ever. I'm pretty sure Billy did a lot of the playing on Gish as well. In fact, I think Billy played on at least a few tracks of every SP album. But, I'm pretty sure that D'arcy made her biggest studio contribution to Mellon-Collie.

    Anyhoo....if you want the Siamese Dream tone, start with a P-bass IMO.
     
  9. Jazzcat

    Jazzcat

    Jan 20, 2009
    Titusville, FL
    That sounds right.
     
  10. Lincoln1

    Lincoln1

    Feb 5, 2010
    All here is correct. About 1/2 of Gish is played by Billy and ALL of SD is him. All on a P bass. I'm an absolute Pumpkins nut. Great band...
     
  11. Jazzcat

    Jazzcat

    Jan 20, 2009
    Titusville, FL
    Hah. I remember reading this a few years back and found it again. Talks about D'arcy's road gear - looks like from watching concert footage and music videos.

    http://www.bastom.com/blog/?p=126
     
  12. ERIC31

    ERIC31

    Jul 1, 2002
    Maricopa, AZ
    Is D'arcy still strung out or did she clean up her act?
     
  13. blackriverstan

    blackriverstan

    Mar 11, 2010
    TX
    i can't get siamese dream out of my cd player right now

    that cd is about as pbass as it gets
     
  14. Jazzcat

    Jazzcat

    Jan 20, 2009
    Titusville, FL
    Yeah, same here.
     
  15. DrSmaggs

    DrSmaggs

    Oct 15, 2003
    Pittsburgh
    Endorsing Artist:
    P Bass I think and P basses are pretty cool in my book
     
  16. Jazzcat

    Jazzcat

    Jan 20, 2009
    Titusville, FL
    I take this as heavily leaning toward still strung out:

     
  17. chenor

    chenor

    Sep 5, 2006
    NYC
    i kind of remember the bass player using a black 70's jazz bass with maple neck...not sure which album/tracks it was used on but im pretty sure a jazz bass was used at one point. i remember reading somewhere that she strung it with ghs boomers as well.
     
  18. chenor

    chenor

    Sep 5, 2006
    NYC


    you can see the aforementioned black jazz in this vid
     
  19. chenor

    chenor

    Sep 5, 2006
    NYC
    and this one

     
  20. ERIC31

    ERIC31

    Jul 1, 2002
    Maricopa, AZ
    What a waste. A prime example of why drugs are stupid and worthless...
     

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