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What do I do???

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by Freakapotamus9, Aug 30, 2001.


  1. Freakapotamus9

    Freakapotamus9

    Jun 20, 2001
    Nebraska
    ok, so i went around to see how much $$$ i could get out of my ibanez. well, every offer i got wasnt enough for me, so i think im just gonna keep it. i never got a new preamp or replaced the orig. pups. its an SR405, about 2 yrs old, and DX5 pups ( i think :rolleyes: ). what do you suggest? i was thinkin BART.s or EMG's but i dont know if theyd fit.
    any suggestions will be appreciated.

    P.S. i know ibanez doesnt hold their resale value very well, so i dont need to be reminded. ;) :D

    thanks,
    sam
     
  2. notduane

    notduane

    Nov 24, 2000
    Location
    Get an accurate ruler (one of them metal dealies) and
    with bass in hand, check out the Bart catalog with the
    pup dimensions -- click here (it's PDF! :( )
     
  3. Freakapotamus9

    Freakapotamus9

    Jun 20, 2001
    Nebraska
    thanks ND,
    how much difference in $$$ are the barts and EMG's? if i do get the pups, should i go ahead and replace the preamp while im at it? and if that is so, what preamps should i look into?
     
  4. ThunderStik

    ThunderStik Guest

    Jun 25, 2001
    Claremore OK.
    What tupe of music do you play?
     
  5. You seem to be forgetting that Ibanezes don't hold their resale value. ;) :p
     
  6. Freakapotamus9

    Freakapotamus9

    Jun 20, 2001
    Nebraska
    well, i play just about everything. mainly alternatve/rock, but this bass will have to be used for the school band and jazz band, at least for a while anyways.
     
  7. notduane

    notduane

    Nov 24, 2000
    Location
    Dang! Ya' got me there :(. I'm a fan of passive magnetics.
    As far as "active" goes -- piezos (by themselves) :D.

    For prices, you might wanna' check with rickbass1 or Brendan.
    They're pricing-out (or having built) Dave Pushic customs.
    In the process of doin' so, I think Mr. r/b-1 learned a whole
    lot about woods, electronics, costs, etc. :)

    Best I can do? Another Bart link! :p -- click
     
  8. Freakapotamus9

    Freakapotamus9

    Jun 20, 2001
    Nebraska
    so i take it, you like Bart.s :D

    BTW, the pups size on my ibanez are 4"X1.5"
     
  9. notduane

    notduane

    Nov 24, 2000
    Location
    Can't say...never tried`em. I do like their site though
    for boat-loads of info.
    Alright! Now we're gettin' somewhere! That's a Bart "M-4"
    or an "EMG 40".

    Accordin' to the 2001 Bart Catalog, they have three coil
    configurations for the M-4...split coil, dual coil, and quad coil.
    For each coil config, there are 2 tone options -- "deeper"
    and "brighter" -- for a total of six possibilities. And that's
    just for one pup! With two pups?...the noggin boggles :p.

    D'ohh! There IS a 2001 Bart price list at the site -- click.
    Remember, "list" is usually way higher than "street" price.
    Huh. There's a dealer list too. Looks like there's one in
    Omaha at "D-Rocks".

    Let's see...EMG offers three flavors of the "40" model for
    5 strings -- "P", "J", and "DC". They're all 4" x 1½" soapbars.
    The difference bein' the internal coil arrangements. The "P"
    is split coil, the "J" - single coil, and the "DC" is dual coil.

    Here's some EMG links...

    Magnet structure
    Tech specs
    Prices (old)
    NE Dealers

    I know even less about EMG's. Maybe start a thread
    like "EMG 40 vs. Bart M4" (if it ain't already been done).
    There's gotta' be TB'rs out there who's tried`em both.

    BTW (almost forgot) The Barts appear to have a 3-screw
    "tripod" mounting arrangement (kinda' like a Stingray's pup).
    The EMG's have a TWO-screw (inline) mounting configuration.

    Preamps? Bart, EMG, Aguilar, Sadowsky, Carvin...AHHH!
    my brains are leakin' outta' my ears :p .


    Happy futzin' ! :)
     
  10. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    central NY state
    Received a gift from Sire, but not an "endorsing artist".* (see sig)
    Gee, "Boggled Noggin" or maybe "Noggin Bogglers" would be a great band name. (He says, in his best Dave Barry impersonation voice, which is tought, being that he's never head Dave Barry speak!) :D
     
  11. Freakapotamus9

    Freakapotamus9

    Jun 20, 2001
    Nebraska
    i think you might have misposted ....... :rolleyes:
     
  12. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    central NY state
    Received a gift from Sire, but not an "endorsing artist".* (see sig)
    Yeah, might've been almost funny if I'd responded right after notduane's post, but as it is, it just looks stupid. Sorry.
     
  13. Ty McNeely

    Ty McNeely

    Mar 27, 2000
    TX
    I don't know if this is a rumor (or I'm just plain stoopid:p), but I heard the the pickups in the Ibanez's aren't THAT bad, its just the preamps in them are AWFUL. Do some research and see what others say, it might save you some money:)
     
  14. Freakapotamus9

    Freakapotamus9

    Jun 20, 2001
    Nebraska
    thats a really good point, ill have to look into that. anybody else heard this??? thatd be great if i only had to buy the preamp.
     
  15. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    central NY state
    Received a gift from Sire, but not an "endorsing artist".* (see sig)
    Maybe I just don't have much to compare against (which is certainly true), but I like the sound of both of my Ibanez 6s just fine. If it could be even better, that'd be fine, but I'd hate to lose the "sweepable Q" midrange control just to upgrade to a better preamp.

    Does anyone else make a preamp set with this sort of control, where you can control not just the boost/cut, but the frequency?

    What'd be really cool would be to have full 3 band parametric on board, so you could control boost/cut, frequency, and slope (or width, for midrange) for bass, mid, and treble. It'd be too many knobs, unless someone comes up with 3 way concentrics. Still, I like the idea.
     
  16. EMG BQS ,BQC, BTS and BTC have variable midrange control
     
  17. Freakapotamus9

    Freakapotamus9

    Jun 20, 2001
    Nebraska
    what does adding another 9volt do?? i heard it adds headroom, but could someone clarify. would this be a nice, small upgrade?
     
  18. Suburban

    Suburban

    Jan 15, 2001
    lower mid Sweden
    Ibanez bad pups rep is, to my mind, mainly caused by low output. Where people expect high output.

    A new preamp may do a lot (like a U-retro!).
    If it doesn't improve the sound, it will surely point out any mis-sound from the pups:rolleyes:

    Good luck!