What Does Jeff Berlin Have Against Metronomes?

Discussion in 'Technique [BG]' started by jasper383, Jul 27, 2006.


  1. jzucker

    jzucker Supporting Member

    Feb 3, 2005
    Cleveland, OH
    No, the point of the metronome is to not only learn to lock in on the beat but to practice being able to lock in slightly ahead of the beat, slightly behind the beat and to be able to continue to play in tempo when the metronome drops out. Practicing playing really slow tempos (i.e. 30-35bpm) with the metronome on 2 & 4 can really be illuminating to your time.

    Wayne Krantz (who has impeccable time) advocates practicing with a metronome and recording it so you can see the pulse of the metronome and the pulse of your time and determine what you are doing wrong....
     
    LetItGrowTone likes this.
  2. NoiseNinja

    NoiseNinja Experimental-psychedelic-ambient-noise-drone

    Feb 23, 2011
    Denmark
    Then there's the whole question on weather or not music with a very stringent coherent tempo or music with a nuanced fluctuating organic tempo sounds best.

    Though I suppose that will ultimately very much be dependent on the specific piece of music, which probably makes it a good idea to practice both.

    But I am inclined to believe that exclusive practice with metronome quite possible might mess up your natural organic sense of timing and ruining your ability to navigate in music that requires of you to constantly adjust your tempo and timing to the natural organic flow and flux of it.

    Point being that keeping time and timing are two very different things that in some cases might even be mutually exclusive.

    Timing basically being the horizontal or time based equivalent to dynamics (seeing amplitude as a vertical and time as a horizontal phenomena/motion on/in a graph/coordinate system), where as keeping time too strictly would be the vertical or time based equivalent to no or at least little dynamic range.
     
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2021
    BassCodger likes this.
  3. jzucker

    jzucker Supporting Member

    Feb 3, 2005
    Cleveland, OH
    that's a common misnomer. Being able to play in tempo is the basic requirement for *ALL TIME CONCEPTS*. The ability to play with musical and nuanced fluctuating tempo starts with the premise that you can play in time. If you cannot keep time or meter, you don't have a mastery of time, syncopation , groove, etc.
     
  4. jzucker

    jzucker Supporting Member

    Feb 3, 2005
    Cleveland, OH
    and IMO, the proof of that is born out by guys like Matt Garrison, Tony Grey, Janek Gwizdala - all prolific technicians, prolific practicers and advocates of playing with a metronome and by the way, GROOVE AF...
     
  5. Primary

    Primary TB Assistant

    Here are some related products that TB members are talking about. Clicking on a product will take you to TB’s partner, Primary, where you can find links to TB discussions about these products.

     
    Sep 27, 2021

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.